I caught her on a park bench, making out with a *chaos* demon! Have you ever seen a chaos demon? They're all slime and antlers.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Anne W. - Sep 14, 2012 2:27:32 am PDT #8153 of 10434
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

sits on same bench as Dana and Calli


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 14, 2012 5:26:26 am PDT #8154 of 10434
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yeah, Loki as a somewhat sympathetic villain I can take, but poor misunderstood woobie is a dealbreaker. I'm sure Tom Hiddleston has roles as non-mass murderers on his filmography that people could romanticize.


§ ita § - Sep 14, 2012 9:55:15 am PDT #8155 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's just my personal feeling that the ones who write based on the comics tend to write characters more in character, because they've been immersed in the comics for a much longer time.

You're valuing comics canon in a way that I do not. I'm separating them. To me, if you're writing movieverse you're not beholden to anything other than the movie, in the end.


SailAweigh - Sep 14, 2012 11:59:09 am PDT #8156 of 10434
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

You're valuing comics canon in a way that I do not. I'm separating them.

I am, I am. I think because that many of the comic-based stories I've run across looking for Steve/Tony fics have just been very well-written and compelling, so I want more people to write stories that include the comics.

I think it's fine to separate media. It's like with the Trekverse. You have each different series, you have movies, you have book tie-ins, you have the animated series, you have reboot.

Ditto with Buffy. Movie, tv show, comics, tie-in novels, almost animated show.

Even when the creator claims that only this or only that is considered canon, the viewers/consumers will decide for themselves if that is how they want to divide them all up.

It's like on tumblr, when someone posts about how a character does this, that or the other thing that we never see onscreen, onpage, etc. but everyone instantly proclaims "head canon!"

That's a lot of canon!

TL;DR.

I respect your canon.


Connie Neil - Sep 14, 2012 2:26:30 pm PDT #8157 of 10434
brillig

I respect your canon.

There needs to be a picture of an antique cannon with this as the caption.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 14, 2012 2:34:20 pm PDT #8158 of 10434
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think I actually prefer movies-only canon, though of course I've been reading the comics sources for decades. There's more wiggle room for the characters to explore without that weight of history behind them.


juliana - Sep 16, 2012 1:44:32 am PDT #8159 of 10434
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I think I actually prefer movies-only canon, though of course I've been reading the comics sources for decades. There's more wiggle room for the characters to explore without that weight of history behind them.

Very much this. Plus, movie-canon allows for Coulson and Darcy, both of whom I like very much, and there's a whole thought of how the movies need some sort of accessibility the comics are lacking, but Phil organically grew into his (Coulson lives!) in a way I hope will be allowed for Darcy, because that kind of balance would be awesome.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 16, 2012 5:08:37 am PDT #8160 of 10434
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Gotta beg off on both your plusses, as those send me to the back button as soon as I see them. (Actually, the mere presence of Coulson among a fic's character tags is enough to tell me it's not going to be for me.)


§ ita § - Sep 16, 2012 8:46:31 am PDT #8161 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why does the presence of Coulson ruin a story? Isn't he integral to many movie adjacent stories, especially casefiles? Darcy less so, but if Fury is in it, i wouldn't be surprised to see Coulson. I might be more surprised not to.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 16, 2012 9:29:21 am PDT #8162 of 10434
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Because I really dislike fix-it fic that undoes a fairly important death in the story. I suppose if the story is set before the events of The Avengers it could be fine, but I've never run across one of those, just Coulson-didn't-die-so-there! fic.