SPN fans aren't (I don't think) finding religious truth in the show, that's not why they're watching it, even if they find the religious content interesting.

This. Or that's the way I read it.

Narnia is a whole world I know so little about. I mean, I know Lewis's reputation as a religious scholar, and I know the religious meanings of the story, but I somehow skipped over the series as a kid, and never went back to it. It's fascinating -- I loved the first movie, and I think the layers of the story and symbolism are really interesting as well as being a damn good story -- but I can't imagine reading the series, or the fic, *as* a religious text. That's just a whole other level of ... something.

I can't imagine reading the series, or the fic, *as* a religious text. That's just a whole other level of ... something.

It's deeply, deeply weird, for someone coming at it as a Fan, rather than as a Christian. My relationship with the canon is, generally, disrespectful in a way that a lot of traditional Narnia fans cannot fathom.

I have seen really quite vanilla gen or het writers get flamed for describing a mermaid as having naked breasts. That's how traditional some of Narnia fandom is.

Now imagine the intersection of LJ-based live-action media fandom, with its RPF and slash and incest kinks, with that? Oy. So flammable.

So flammable.

I can imagine. Wow.

My mom has a deep faith -- she's a Stephen Minister and everything -- but a description of a mermaid's naked breasts would go unnoticed because, duh. She loved the sexy romances I wrote. And gave them to her friends at church!

Anyway. I'd like to read the books, maybe with Sara. On a shallow note, Liam Neesom as Aslan was just fantastic.

On a shallow note, Liam Neesom as Aslan was just fantastic.

Oh, yes. And I think they did a great job on the casting of the kids, especially in the first movie. Lucy, especially.

The battle scene still makes me laugh, though: the swords never get bloody. And no 11-year-old kid has the muscle-mass to do that kind of fighting, much less wear plate armor. ::shrugs::

The second movie has its charms, too. The third one goes wildly off the rails, though, and is primarily enjoyable mostly for Ben Barnes in tight pants. Oh, and the kid who was cast as Eustace, who is fantastic.

I haven't seen them. I'd kind of like to read the other books first now. Of course, the list of things I want to read before that is, like, up to three hundred, so.

And thanks for indulging me with some discussion tonight. It really helped.

It really helped.

My pleasure. Also, the wackiness of fandom is endlessly entertaining to me.

Seriously: theological concrit. ::rolls eyes::

Also, the wackiness of fandom is endlessly entertaining to me.

I find it so fascinating. And occasionally infuriating and baffling, maybe because I only sort of hover on the fringes, in terms of participating actively in a broader sense.

On Archive of Our Own I noticed a large amount of Narnia incest fic. (I admit I skipped every Narnia fic with an incest warning. ) So apparently not everyone approaches it from a theocon point of view. And on the other hand I always found the Neil Gaiman "Problem of Susan" fanfic interesting.

So apparently not everyone approaches it from a theocon point of view

Oh, indeed not. The religious-traditional axis of the fandom mostly hangs out at Fanfiction.net. I don't think most of those folks know AO3 exists.

AO3/LJ fandom is in no way afraid of incest, or even slashy incest. You might find some of it on FFN, but it's usually prefaced by defensive statements like "Don't like, don't read!!!!"

I didn't promise anyone here a VividCon DVD set yet, did I?