Please...Wesley...why can't I stay?

Fred ,'A Hole in the World'


Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 11, 2009 5:41:36 am PST #6365 of 10434
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I was kind of taken by surprise because usually stories that use ridiculous plot contrivances and characterization that in no way resembles the characters I'm familiar with reveal themselves fairly early on. With this one, I was really enjoying the set-up, nodding along with the dialogue as sounding right to me and feeling that people's reactions to each other were spot on. Then the massive load of WTF? got air-dropped into the middle of the story, characters started behaving in ways that completely contradicted not only canon but how they behaved earlier in the story, and cardboard original characters started coming out of the woodwork to railroad the plot to its predetermined end.

I wish there were a polite way to ask the author if she could go back to just before it went off the rails and rewrite the second half with the same style and sensibility as the first.


SailAweigh - Dec 11, 2009 6:03:35 am PST #6366 of 10434
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

That's too bad, Matt, because that really can ruin an otherwise decent story. I've gotten 20 chapters into a 30 chapter serial and given up in a WTF that way, too. It reaaly sucks. Almost more than an unfinished story. Unfinished stories you can at least imagine how it might end without being radically disabused. Something already finished just pokes at you and keeps tearing the scab off every time you go back to see if it really is that bad.

Fortunately for my fic, I think I've got a pretty decent beta reader, who would never dare let me get away with that.

And I want to thank 'Suela for sticking up for those of us who can't focus on two things at the same time while listening. Either music or talking, but not both at the same time, thank you very much. Intro music, OTOH, is tres cool. It can really set the mood of story and I'm willing to bet Fay chooses really cool music.


brenda m - Dec 11, 2009 6:15:41 am PST #6367 of 10434
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yeah, the podfic of Fay's that I've listened to has tended to have short clips of music (not whole songs) that do a very good job of setting a tone or a mood. I think it's a great add. Music, especially with lyrics, in the background of the reading would be a totally different story.


Consuela - Dec 11, 2009 12:18:39 pm PST #6368 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Fay, as amych said. While I think it's a subjectivity issue with regards to the use of music for interludes and lead-ins (i.e., some people like it, some don't, for some it depends on the music choices, just like vids), my primary issue was with people reading over music. I am an absolutist on that: it's a failure of accessibility, and a disservice to both the story and many of the potential audience members.

On a personal note, I don't like entire songs used as interludes. I want to get to the next part of the story, already, not wait through Johnny Cash singing about Folsom Prison or whatever. But that's not an accessibility issue, it's a personal preference and a formatting aspect. (I do wish people would label the stories when they use entire songs, though.)

In either event, it's my understanding it's not that hard to not use music when putting together podfic, and those of us with hearing problems would like to have the option of listening to a music-free story.


§ ita § - Dec 15, 2009 11:01:08 am PST #6369 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Stolen from Consuela on LJ:

Horrible Fanon Childhood Showdown.

There's only one woman on the list!

I have to admit, I'm not up on fic in many of these fandoms, so I'm guessing about a lot of them. Knowing Bodie has a lot of fanon misery does make me want to seek fic out, though.

I'm very disappointed in Torchwood fic that Ianto couldn't give Daniel Jackson a run for his money--or perhaps I just underestimate the woobiness of Daniel.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 15, 2009 11:04:48 am PST #6370 of 10434
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

What happened to DiNozzo (I don't really follow NCIS) that made his childhood suck worse than Logan Echolls?


Dana - Dec 15, 2009 11:09:38 am PST #6371 of 10434
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

perhaps I just underestimate the woobiness of Daniel.

Daniel, IN CANON, watched his parents crushed by a falling museum exhibit. I imagine his fanon childhood is filled with terrible foster home experiences and the like.


brenda m - Dec 15, 2009 11:12:18 am PST #6372 of 10434
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Who has more fanon childhood misery?

Jim Kirk (Star Trek (2009)) 47 (67.1%)

Alex Krycek (The X-Files) 23 (32.9%)

I find this very hard to believe. But it's one of the very few where I'm familiar enough with both candidates to even have an opinion.

But honestly, the entire post is making my head explode:

Who has more fanon childhood misery?

Worse fanon childhood?

More fanon ~manpain~ incurred before age eighteen?

Why are these separate questions? What makes them different?

Seriously, I'm getting way too worked up about this.


erikaj - Dec 15, 2009 11:15:40 am PST #6373 of 10434
Always Anti-fascist!

Tim Bayliss has got to make the top ten.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 15, 2009 11:16:26 am PST #6374 of 10434
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Oops, I kept reading "fanon" as "canon"-- I guess that explains the Echolls/DiNozzo.