Mal: Does she understand that? River: She understands. She doesn't comprehend.

'Objects In Space'


Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Aims - Sep 07, 2007 5:56:37 am PDT #4314 of 10436
Shit's all sorts of different now.

To those who had previously said they would beta for me, insent.


Vonnie K - Sep 07, 2007 5:57:43 am PDT #4315 of 10436
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I was reading a dragon*con panel reports at my Flist and apparently some crazy woman got up in the Stargate panel and asked Paul McGillion and Jason Momoa about whether they were looking forward to killing off Sam Carter in the next season. To which the cast, rightly, responded with flabbergasted distaste.

Honestly, some parts of the fandom make me want to hide in my cave and never come out.


Dana - Sep 07, 2007 6:03:39 am PDT #4316 of 10436
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

apparently some crazy woman got up in the Stargate panel and asked Paul McGillion and Jason Momoa about whether they were looking forward to killing off Sam Carter in the next season. To which the cast, rightly, responded with flabbergasted distaste.

She actually said something like, "I know this will get me in trouble with the audience, but is there any chance either of your characters will kill off Carter next season?"

Much of the audience booed, including us. And yeah, Momoa and McGillion's resopnse was generally "WTF?"


Vonnie K - Sep 07, 2007 6:05:56 am PDT #4317 of 10436
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Also, it's gonna be tough for Beckett to, you know, come back from the dead, so that he could kill off Sam.


Dana - Sep 07, 2007 6:06:46 am PDT #4318 of 10436
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I'm pretty sure Momoa mentioned that, though the panels are starting to blur together. He did delight in reminding McGillion that his character was dead.


Nutty - Sep 07, 2007 6:14:04 am PDT #4319 of 10436
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

the above story certainly has the hot boysex aplenty. But still - it's a cracking piece of writing

I think I would have liked the story better if it had been gen. There was something about the structuring that managed to imply "I stole a city for my hot boyfriend," which tended to trivialize the otherwise deadly-serious plot.

Actually there are a couple of things I'd criticize in the story, in the deep structure and in the assumptions, but mostly what I want of the story is for it to be more ambitious. Which says good things about the story overall, you know? It engaged me enough that I wanted it to be even better. (I haven't figured out a polite way to write that in feedback format.)


amych - Sep 07, 2007 6:21:45 am PDT #4320 of 10436
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I think I would have liked the story better if it had been gen. There was something about the structuring that managed to imply "I stole a city for my hot boyfriend," which tended to trivialize the otherwise deadly-serious plot.

I think I see where you're coming from, even though I totally and utterly disagree. (But by way of disclaimer, the list of stories I find to be improved by being gen is... um... I had one or two written down somewhere in case the question ever came up.)

Anyway, for me, the hot boysex didn't distract from the story, because of the way it felt like the whole plot was really kicked into motion by the way Sheppard's emotional loyalties run so much deeper than the attitudinal flyboy the Air Force and SGC take him for. Which applies to the team, not just the pairing, and ultimately to the way the city is reborn. And because it all unfolds out of that core, the hot boysex is TOTALLY NOT GRATUITOUS LALALALA.


Nutty - Sep 07, 2007 6:32:45 am PDT #4321 of 10436
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think I would be more willing to subscribe to your newsletter if, e.g., any of the other characters (i.e. the 124 other people) had been given agency or action. Like, a whole bunch of brilliant weirdoes were all satisfied to transition to what amounts to a monarchy, without argument? There were never any policy disagreements?

The lesson of Fletcher Christian, to pick one famous mutineer, is the lesson that once you've had one mutiny, it's not too hard to have more. You don't just automatically make a City upon a Hill, not without a lot of caucusing and rancor and hardship in addition to luck.


Fay - Sep 07, 2007 6:40:58 am PDT #4322 of 10436
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I think I must be a glass-half-full kind of ficreader, then. I followed a link with no particular expectations (hadn't even registered it was Speranza until I got to the end) and was just delighted with all the historical 'quotations' and citations and bibliography and all that jazz. But I can see the validity of your criticisms.


Connie Neil - Sep 07, 2007 9:02:08 am PDT #4323 of 10436
brillig

My only quibble with the story was how did they deal with the Wraith armada after expending so much energy on the SGC ships? Yes, John used the big ass bomb, but that seemed a bit handwavy.

edit: Plus I felt a bit, well, snubbed by the bits at the end in languages I didn't know, as if we weren't worthy to know those parts of the story. I know it was a mechanism to show how Atlantis became truly part of Pegasus and not of Earth, but I wanted to know what it said.