Whatever happened to the still beating heart of a virgin? No one has any standards anymore.

Giles ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'


Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


esse - May 30, 2007 10:09:30 am PDT #3938 of 10436
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

That's another hour for people to work themselves into a frenzy, swear they're going to leave LJ, etc. I would respect a post that said, "Look, this is why we had to do this. We're sorry, we think it sucks, but we have to protect ourselves and the larger community." I would respect a post that said, "We're aware of our users' concerns. Please be patient while we put together a statement, and we'll do our best to address your questions."

I agree. But LJ is also notoriously slow for coming up with public statements.


Nutty - May 30, 2007 10:32:09 am PDT #3939 of 10436
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

But every hour that goes by that LJ doesn't address what happened -- it just strikes me as insane.

I am at this moment having a vision of the flop sweat on the brow of the Lower Minion whose proposed response post is sitting on the desk of a supervisor who is at lunch. (For digital-workers' values of desk and lunch.)

Poor Lower Minion. It's always the little guy who suffers.


Dana - May 30, 2007 4:38:37 pm PDT #3940 of 10436
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

SixApart has finally spoken (to the press) about the deletions:

"Our decision here was not based on pure legal issues. It was based on what community we want to build and what we think is appropriate within that community and what's not."

Well.

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Anne W. - May 30, 2007 4:39:12 pm PDT #3941 of 10436
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Wow. Classy of them to speak to the press before saying a word to their members.


Dana - May 30, 2007 4:40:19 pm PDT #3942 of 10436
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yes. And to decide community standards for 13 million members. I know I feel so very welcome, compared to how I felt a week ago.


Michele T. - May 30, 2007 4:51:41 pm PDT #3943 of 10436
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

I don't know. When I hear it from Ben and Mena (the 6A founders), I'm buying it - right now that sounds like a CEO taking a call from a very prominent tech journalist and creating another headache for his company.

Also, technorati's tags are all user-generated. Digg, I have no idea.


Michele T. - May 30, 2007 4:53:52 pm PDT #3944 of 10436
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

When I hear it from Ben and Mena (the 6A founders), I'm buying it

By which I mean -- I think Bernstein was trying to say "pedophiles are bad, and we at 6A are against them!" Ben and Mena Trott, not to mention senior 6A people like Anil Dash and Michael Sippey, have been heavily involved with internet culture for a lot longer than there's been a b.org, and I don't think they're turning a hair at the idea of kinky fanfiction.


Dana - May 30, 2007 5:00:27 pm PDT #3945 of 10436
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yes, a response to the users would sure be nice right about now. Possibly before a response to the press, but I guess that boat has sailed.


Morgana - May 30, 2007 11:53:50 pm PDT #3946 of 10436
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Barak Berkowitz (Chairman and CEO) has posted an explanation and apology on LJ. Somewhere in the midst of it he says

We never intended this policy to cause the removal of journals that were have perfectly valid discussions about literature, law or culture. We never intended the policies to take down journals or communities clearly opposed to illegal activities but clearly we did. We love our members of fandom and respect their role in our community. We made a mistake and now we are going to try to fix it.

The line about fandom seems kind of thrown in there randomly, but at least we were mentioned, I suppose.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 31, 2007 5:04:50 am PDT #3947 of 10436
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Hmmm. I tried to post my response to this clusterfuck now that there's actually someone stepping up and explaining what happened, and got this message:

This part of the database is temporarily down for maintenance. Try again in a few minutes.

I assume it's the system choking on the sheer amount of angry responses, rather than a sign that two-way dialogue was never an enabled option to begin with?