Oh, Derry's carpreg thing is fun crack.

I'm sort of resignedly surprised at the rise of incest fic, but not really shocked.

Yeah, I'm just getting into Heroes, and I'm a little depressed that I can't seem to get away from the happy fun incest.

I'm sort of resignedly surprised at the rise of incest fic, but not really shocked.

See, I see the incest and I think, "oh, that's just so 2002." Incestfic may not be my flavor of the month, but ever since Lex/Lionel, I just assume that if there are related sexxay characters in play, people will go there.

I'm fascinated that RPS appears to be on the rise as well, within SPN fandom. And it's not being written by people who don't like the Wincest--in fact it's often the same people. So, um.

I clicked on Destina's new story and read a few sentences and thought, "I don't care about these people." Sigh.

The difference, for me, is seeing a fandom where the majority (or at least a substantial proportion) of the fic is incest. In Smallville and Harry Potter and Firefly, those pairings were not the OTP of the fandom.

I have read no Petrelli-cest. I have even avoided seeing it. I'm going to stick with that.

Ple, thanks! I marked the post, I can't read those until I get home.

I can't read incest, it's just a squick I can't get past. The first incest story I read was in DS - RayV/Frannie/Fraser.

And really after some of the DS Dief sex stories I read really I shouldn't be surprised that people are writing carpreg.

The others... is there some kind of lj community for carfic or SPN has a newsletter community right?

spnnewsletter

The difference, for me, is seeing a fandom where the majority (or at least a substantial proportion) of the fic is incest.

Didn't someone break it down, and it was something like 40%?

I have no moral objections, I just don't really dig it. Even if it makes me sad seeing all this beautiful cake that I have no real desire to eat.

Oh, yeah: Dean does Nanowrimo: [link]

Which continues to amuse me. I *heart* crack.

Didn't someone break it down, and it was something like 40%?

I was told Maygra did a breakdown of what's on the newsletter, and it's like 25% of what's posted (counting individual stories, not words), but it constitutes the large majority of the slash in the fandom. It is, however, the OTP.

I really need to find that post, I only had it reported to me in a chat.

It's funny, I don't want to be the one whining, "I'm being oppressed by the incesters!" because lame, much? Especially if it's not the majority of what's being written. But it's a highly-visible (and somewhat controversial) minority and thus has an impact disproportionate to its volume.

I get why people like it, but I've tried to read a few of them, and they just -- that's not how I see that relationship, and almost all of them twist it into something that doesn't work for me. Dean doesn't love Sam because he's beautiful, and Sam doesn't love Dean because he's hot. They're brothers and most of the time they don't even see each other, because that's what happens.

The only wincesty story I've read that convinces me it could go that way is Maygra and Eighth-Horizon's "Salvation" AU, which has a really long complicated buildup to it, and even then mostly keeps the wincest on the metaphorical side.

Yeah, I'm just getting into Heroes, and I'm a little depressed that I can't seem to get away from the happy fun incest.

Yeah. Some people on my Flist are into it (good writers whose other fic I love) and just looking at the header kind of makes me blanch. Same in SPN. I mean, I can get behind a story that explores how this is something the boys will turn to under extremes of circumstances (sort of like how I was able to buy Simon/River), but the default reaction seems to be wheeee! Hot boysex! Which... no. And in shalott's squee post about SPN yesterday, she mentioned how she could see Wincest as a pairing with a viable happy ending, which made me go... "what?" OK, if this was "Lone Star" territory where the boys didn't grow up together, maybe. But Sam and Dean, more than anything, are *siblings* through and through, and I just can't see how the writers, no matter how hot the boys are, could look past that. Even with the demons and the magic, the universe of SPN is recognizably ours, unlike something like, say, Harry Potter.