Wash: Were I unwed, I would take you in a manly fashion. Kaylee: 'Cause I'm pretty? Wash: 'Cause you're pretty.

'Heart Of Gold'


Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


DebetEsse - Sep 19, 2006 1:20:57 pm PDT #2573 of 10434
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I don't know that I buy the Michael is more family-oriented than Linc, especially given their different orientations to LJ.


§ ita § - Sep 19, 2006 1:22:57 pm PDT #2574 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wasn't Linc an absentee father? Michael's doings make even most normal familial associations pale before the light of his obsessiveness.


DebetEsse - Sep 19, 2006 1:27:50 pm PDT #2575 of 10434
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I think your recollection is correct. I meant more since the start of the series. I don't think it was insignificant that Michael had to be convinced to go get him out of the Court House, even if there's the impulsive/planning (or big picture/immediacy) dicotomy between Linc and Michael.

Because, really, the decision to get Linc out seems to be about the only emotionally-dictated one Michael's had (perhaps apart from sending the swan to Doctor Chick Whose Name I Disremember).

I'm not sure exactly how that dichotomy maps to the Winchester Boys, though.


§ ita § - Sep 19, 2006 1:33:52 pm PDT #2576 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I make no inherent association between emotionally-dictated decisions and family-oriented ones. I think it can also be argued that the size of Michael's decision to free Linc left no room for any other emotional reactions.


DebetEsse - Sep 19, 2006 1:38:14 pm PDT #2577 of 10434
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Perhaps not for him, but I think a lot of people who would be the sort of person to make that decision would be the sort of person to be thwarted in that action by other decisions they had to make (to be true to themselves).

In my head it's not so much an inherent association as an assumed correlation, which is certainly not as strong an argument, but would be my assumption for a character, until shown otherwise by the text.


§ ita § - Sep 19, 2006 1:49:00 pm PDT #2578 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

until shown otherwise by the text

The text shows me that Michael's family-dictated decisions massively overwhelm instincts for freedom and protection from physical and mental danger. I see nothing that Linc has done to rival that, and really, it's not sane to be rivalling what Michael has done.

Emotion or no, Michael's Batgod crazy to do what he did, and family-orientation lies at the seat of that.


DebetEsse - Sep 19, 2006 1:56:50 pm PDT #2579 of 10434
Woe to the fucking wicked.

See, I'm not sure if it's family-orientation or sense of justice (him knowing that Linc was innocent) or some combination. I don't see it as purely family-orientation, though.

And, yes, craxy like things what are nuts, while being brilliant.


§ ita § - Sep 19, 2006 2:00:26 pm PDT #2580 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've seen no particular need for justice for people not named Michael, though.

I'm blanking on the details of the scene, but there's one that they flashed back to a couple of times with little Linc promising something to chibi!Michael, and it seemed that everything spiralled out from that one childhood vow of brothers, or, if not--that it could be symbolised as such.


DebetEsse - Sep 19, 2006 2:28:46 pm PDT #2581 of 10434
Woe to the fucking wicked.

In which case, you could also reasonably spin it as an oath-keeping orientation.

I agree that Linc is very important to him, but I really do hesitate to write it to the larger "family", which, in this case, at this point, basically means LJ, I think.


§ ita § - Sep 19, 2006 2:43:32 pm PDT #2582 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

you could also reasonably spin it as an oath-keeping orientation

Well, no, because I'm remembering it as an oath taken by Linc.

::exhausti(ve/ng) googling::

From English, Fitz or Percy:

The whole point to this flashback is to establish that on the day of their mother's funeral, an adolescent Linc promised the younger Michael they'd always stick together. And when Michael asked, "What if something happens to you?" Linc replied, "You just have a little faith." And yes, the whole point of this flashback is also that Michael remembers that sage lesson, even if Linc does not.