Wash: Little River just gets more colorful by the moment. What'll she do next? Zoe: Either blow us all up or rub soup in our hair. It's a toss-up. Wash: I hope she does the soup thing. It's always a hoot, and we don't all die from it.

'Objects In Space'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Maria - May 03, 2005 7:56:46 am PDT #889 of 10001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

edit to note that is Jeb! Bush

Aren't they interchangeable? They both make you sick to your stomach.

Happy Teacher's Day to youknowwhoyouare!

Job~ma to xnera and Fay.


Sue - May 03, 2005 7:57:34 am PDT #890 of 10001
hip deep in pie

Thomash, I just read that and I didn't have to log in to look at it.


lori - May 03, 2005 7:57:35 am PDT #891 of 10001

I love this bit from the story that Laura linked:

"Isn't it an indication of a strange state of affairs in Florida that we should be grateful that the governor has agreed to obey the law?" said Howard Simon, the ACLU's Florida executive director.

"This was also the law a week ago and this flurry of litigation could have been avoided if the governor could have gotten better legal advice last week that this minor female has a right to terminate her unwanted pregnancy," Simon said. "The governor has a duty to uphold the constitution — not simply the provisions he agrees with."


Jessica - May 03, 2005 7:59:20 am PDT #892 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

"Isn't it an indication of a strange state of affairs in Florida that we should be grateful that the governor has agreed to obey the law?" said Howard Simon, the ACLU's Florida executive director.

Ugh. And word.


Thomash - May 03, 2005 8:00:59 am PDT #893 of 10001
I have a plan.

Thomash, I just read that and I didn't have to log in to look at it.

Here's the [link] then. I hope it works for people. It's an interesting piece, though I fail to see the motivation for writing it.


Daisy Jane - May 03, 2005 8:05:25 am PDT #894 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I would feel better about the Florida thing if I thought they would leave it at that. But, there will likely be vigils, blame and talking points.

I used to have this friend in Shreveport, I've mentioned her before. Really sweet, but not terribly bright? Anyway, she and I used to get into arguments about news, politics, other matters of fact. No matter how you tried to walk her through the logic, what facts you could cite, what common sense you tried to patientlly explain, what she thought was true was true. She didn't even need to convince you you were wrong, she just needed to hang on to the belief that she was right.

I feel like trying to wrest my country from these people is like arguing with Jennifer.


Connie Neil - May 03, 2005 8:06:24 am PDT #895 of 10001
brillig

Orson Scott Card: "Star Trek's icky! Why don't you like my stuff the way you like Star Trek! But only weird people like Star Trek, so I don't want you liking my stuff."


Betsy HP - May 03, 2005 8:08:09 am PDT #896 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Which was a shame, because science fiction writing was incredibly fertile at the time, with writers like Harlan Ellison and Ursula LeGuin, Robert Silverberg and Larry Niven, Brian W. Aldiss and Michael Moorcock, Ray Bradbury and Isaac Asimov, and Robert A. Heinlein and Arthur C. Clarke creating so many different kinds of excellent science fiction that no one reader could keep track of it all.

Harlan Ellison, of course, wrote for Star Trek, although he certainly wasn't pleased with the results.


JohnSweden - May 03, 2005 8:10:22 am PDT #897 of 10001
I can't even.

I hope it works for people. It's an interesting piece, though I fail to see the motivation for writing it.

Interesting view from a guy (Card) who stopped being "relevant" to science fiction twenty years ago himself.


§ ita § - May 03, 2005 8:13:18 am PDT #898 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Whedon's "Firefly" showed us that even 1930s sci-fi can be well acted and tell a compelling long-term story.

I wish it had had a chance to tell a long-term story.

ho stopped being "relevant" to science fiction twenty years ago himself.

No kidding. I loved him ... and then ... ick. I'd rather watch boring Trek than keep reading him.