The thing is, as long as the consciousness that is sitting here typing dies, I don't CARE what happens to any clones.
It's all about me, me, me, baby.
I know I'm a bad poet, but I'm a good man. All I ask is that... is that you try to see me—
William ,'Conversations with Dead People'
What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Betsy HP - May 25, 2005 12:50:36 pm PDT #6972 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
§ ita § - May 25, 2005 12:52:10 pm PDT #6973 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The thing is, as long as the consciousness that is sitting here typing dies
The body can die, though?
shrift - May 25, 2005 12:53:19 pm PDT #6974 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
This cloning discussion sounds a bit like the plot of Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan.
Betsy HP - May 25, 2005 12:55:13 pm PDT #6975 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
The body can die, though?
The body dies; the body's beauty lives.
Jessica - May 25, 2005 12:56:52 pm PDT #6976 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Would you know that you are the backup when you walk out of MyBackup(TM) to see if you really can jump that canyon...
You'e be you, minus however long since your last backup.
(In Richard Morgan's books, your consciousness is stored on a hard drive that lives at the top of your spinal column, and is updated in real time. So after your body goes splat at the bottom of the canyon, the park rangers retrieve your hard drive and put it into a new body, assuming you're rich enough to afford one.)
[xpost with Shrift, sort of]
§ ita § - May 25, 2005 12:58:31 pm PDT #6977 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
So you come to with the memory of dying each time? That's ... that makes things different.
The body dies; the body's beauty lives.
If there are two of your consciousnesses, are they both you?
tommyrot - May 25, 2005 12:59:38 pm PDT #6978 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
the park rangers retrieve your hard drive and put it into a new body, assuming you're rich enough to afford one.
Would it fit in a house cat? Or an emperor penguin?
Betsy HP - May 25, 2005 1:00:05 pm PDT #6979 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
If there are two of your consciousnesses, are they both you?
Ask John Crichton.
Seriously, "my consciousness" is the one that is making the decision to press Post. An identical copy made at this moment will no doubt believe it is also me, but it's not the one with the fingers on the keyboard.
§ ita § - May 25, 2005 1:01:16 pm PDT #6980 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
An identical copy made at this moment will no doubt believe it is also me, but it's not the one with the fingers on the keyboard.
Okay -- I wasn't sure which side you were arguing. Having a clone won't do it for you, then?
What if you passed out, and then woke up twinned -- do you win then?
tommyrot - May 25, 2005 1:01:41 pm PDT #6981 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
An identical copy made at this moment will no doubt believe it is also me, but it's not the one with the fingers on the keyboard.
It would suck if it had its fingers on the keyboard too, as you'd be posting everything twice.
At least until the two consciousnesses diverged.