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What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Betsy HP - May 25, 2005 1:00:05 pm PDT #6979 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

If there are two of your consciousnesses, are they both you?

Ask John Crichton.

Seriously, "my consciousness" is the one that is making the decision to press Post. An identical copy made at this moment will no doubt believe it is also me, but it's not the one with the fingers on the keyboard.


§ ita § - May 25, 2005 1:01:16 pm PDT #6980 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

An identical copy made at this moment will no doubt believe it is also me, but it's not the one with the fingers on the keyboard.

Okay -- I wasn't sure which side you were arguing. Having a clone won't do it for you, then?

What if you passed out, and then woke up twinned -- do you win then?


tommyrot - May 25, 2005 1:01:41 pm PDT #6981 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

An identical copy made at this moment will no doubt believe it is also me, but it's not the one with the fingers on the keyboard.

It would suck if it had its fingers on the keyboard too, as you'd be posting everything twice.

At least until the two consciousnesses diverged.


shrift - May 25, 2005 1:01:56 pm PDT #6982 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Would it fit in a house cat? Or an emperor penguin?

From Morgan's books, the hard drive would, yes. I would think that having opposable thumbs would be more appealing, but then, if you're that rich, I suppose you have people who can do opposable-thumb-thingys for you.


Gudanov - May 25, 2005 1:03:27 pm PDT #6983 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

What if you passed out, and then woke up twinned -- do you win then?

The Schrodinger's Betsy experiment.


Betsy HP - May 25, 2005 1:09:15 pm PDT #6984 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

What if you passed out, and then woke up twinned -- do you win then?

If I pass out and wake up twinned, we have a chick fight because each of us believes we're the real me.

If we were twenty years younger, we might go off and find our husband for a threesome, but candidly we're not that fond of our body right now. (My GOD, woman! Don't you EVER say "no" to a cookie?)


Vortex - May 25, 2005 1:12:50 pm PDT #6985 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I suspect that it would be kind of like twins. If I were to be cloned right now, one of me would be the original. (I'd probably do something stupid like write O on my hand or something.) Anyhoo, at that point, the clone would begin to be its own person. However, it would be the same person to everyone but the orginial. if that makes any sense.


§ ita § - May 25, 2005 1:14:12 pm PDT #6986 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In my twinning scenario, we both start seeking guidance from "random" input that only one of us (probably due to physical position) has access to. Need to differentiate ASAP.

I don't win, though. This particular me needs to hop from place to place somehow. Or achieve mass sentience between the clones.

That'd be hot.


Betsy HP - May 25, 2005 1:15:52 pm PDT #6987 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

and ita becomes a Beowulf cluster!


Gudanov - May 25, 2005 1:19:54 pm PDT #6988 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

So after your body goes splat at the bottom of the canyon, the park rangers retrieve your hard drive and put it into a new body, assuming you're rich enough to afford one.

Well, you can get backed up for free, but then your thoughts get interrupted by annoying pop-thought ads.