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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - May 02, 2005 1:36:37 pm PDT #651 of 10001

My middle school bio teacher made some comment at the get go over the furor in certain religious circles but taught it without any other commentary. If I'm remembering correctly, she belonged to a faith that rejected evolution, but I'm not certain if she did (she was a student teacher at the same time as my mom, which is how I know anything about her religious practices.)

My high school biology teacher began every year with a roof-raising lecture whose main point was the biggest environmental issue is overpopulation . Even his chemistry class. In any case, he had no problems pounding evolution into even the thickest of heads.


Jesse - May 02, 2005 1:44:36 pm PDT #652 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

A guy here who describes himself as real techsavvy/cool just mistook a Shuffle for an iPod remote control.

Har. Granted, I keep calling the Shuffle "mini" (but it IS mini!!), but at least I describe myself as techloser.

I liked bio so much in HS that I took three years and planned on majoring in it. (until I actually got to college. It did not work out.).

I had that with math. Alas.


Kathy A - May 02, 2005 1:51:28 pm PDT #653 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I started reading about hominids back when I was 11 or so (the 1977 National Geographic article by Donald Johanson describing Lucy and the First Family was pivotal for me), so I still have a hard time understanding creationists. I couldn't believe it when my sophomore (high school) biology teacher asked us, as an informal survey, to write down our beliefs on creationism vs. evolution on the back of our first test. When he announced the next day that over half of the students were in favor of creationism, I was appalled. These were all girls in a college-prep Catholic school, and we were all very smart 15 year olds. I couldn't believe that they had bought the fundamentalists' fairy tales (as I saw them).

Heck, even in my CCD (Sunday school) classes in 8th grade, the lay teacher taught us that the Bible was being metaphorical, not literal, in Genesis.


Jesse - May 02, 2005 1:54:04 pm PDT #654 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I can actually believe in the bible as more literal than you might think, given that things are in pretty much the right order, and the idea that god's time doesn't run like people's time. I guess that makes the day/night part metaphorical. Which is not to say I don't believe in evolution.


libkitty - May 02, 2005 2:02:49 pm PDT #655 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I guess that makes the day/night part metaphorical.

This seems so straightforward to me. I mean, then everything works.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 02, 2005 2:04:42 pm PDT #656 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Admittedly it's been years since I read Genesis, but it doesn't go into the specifics of how various animals were created like the rib bit with Eve, does it?


Kathy A - May 02, 2005 2:05:47 pm PDT #657 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I can actually believe in the bible as more literal than you might think, given that things are in pretty much the right order, and the idea that god's time doesn't run like people's time. I guess that makes the day/night part metaphorical. Which is not to say I don't believe in evolution.

Actually, now that I think about it, I believe that's pretty much what the CCD teacher said. But, she did add the caveat that she wasn't a science teacher, but a religion one, and that she didn't think the two had a heck of a lot to do with each other.

I like the part of Inherit the Wind where the Darrow character says during his crossexamination of the opposing lawyer something to the point that, since the Bible says that God didn't create the Sun and the Moon until later in the six days, that the length of "a day" before that could have been longer than the standard 24-hour one, and gets the other lawyer to admit to that possibility.


libkitty - May 02, 2005 2:10:49 pm PDT #658 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

it doesn't go into the specifics of how various animals were created like the rib bit with Eve, does it?

NSM. Pretty much speaking takes care of things for the most part. However, the day and night was early, and even the sun, moon and stars were before animals, although not before plants.


Cashmere - May 02, 2005 2:10:56 pm PDT #659 of 10001
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I still don't personally know many Christians who reject evolution, at least not wholesale.

DH works with a guy who will not let his 8 year old son have dinosaur related toys or ANYTHING because the fossils of dinosaurs were put on this planet to test man's faith. Seriously. He thinks this. And he's an educated man. *shudder*


Allyson - May 02, 2005 2:11:10 pm PDT #660 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

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