Wash: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction. Zoe: We live in a space ship, dear. Wash: So?

'Objects In Space'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Betsy HP - May 12, 2005 8:11:31 am PDT #3612 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Why do you think we still differentiate this activity as white slavery?

I agree with your reaction, but the problem is that nobody created has a catchy phrase for "prostitution slavery".


Frankenbuddha - May 12, 2005 8:15:17 am PDT #3613 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I agree with your reaction, but the problem is that nobody created has a catchy phrase for "prostitution slavery".

Teppy Slavery, perhaps?


Rick - May 12, 2005 8:23:25 am PDT #3614 of 10001

I don't vanity google for me, since I don't really want to be found.

The last time the subject of vanity Googling came up on the board I searched for myself. I found out how unfortunate it is that there is only one Internet, not conveniently separated personal and business Internets. The third hit for me was a magazine article in which the author discussed my research on the dangers of alcohol abuse. The fourth hit pulled up several pictures of me, very drunk, at a high school reunion. Cruel juxtaposition is the way of the Google.


sarameg - May 12, 2005 8:27:10 am PDT #3615 of 10001

That's really unfortunate. And hilarious.


§ ita § - May 12, 2005 8:29:00 am PDT #3616 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You can run, but you can't always hide.

If you do an image search on the term provocateuse, there is one picture in the first 100 that's not from one of my sites. Huh.


Topic!Cindy - May 12, 2005 8:29:19 am PDT #3617 of 10001
What is even happening?

I agree with your reaction, but the problem is that nobody created has a catchy phrase for "prostitution slavery".
I don't think it's ever occured to me, before. It didn't even ping me when I read it here. It was when I read the article itself that I got to thinking about it. I googled it after I made that comment. A wikipedia article used the term sexual slavery as a synonym. Since slaves always have been vulnerable to rape, I don't know what I think about that term, yet.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 12, 2005 8:30:46 am PDT #3618 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The third hit for me was a magazine article in which the author discussed my research on the dangers of alcohol abuse. The fourth hit pulled up several pictures of me, very drunk, at a high school reunion.

Just look at it as following the maxim "write what you know," Rick.


Jesse - May 12, 2005 8:32:24 am PDT #3619 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Since slaves always have been vulnerable to rape, I don't know what I think about that term, yet.

But it's about the primary purpose. Some people are enslaved to be laborers, some to be prostitutes. Even if they all get raped, the rape isn't necessarily the point.

"White slavery" is a horribly offensive term.


§ ita § - May 12, 2005 8:34:10 am PDT #3620 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Since slaves always have been vulnerable to rape, I don't know what I think about that term, yet.

I think the difference is in the main focus of the slavery. All labour, perhaps including sexual, or primarily sexual? This particular article seemed about general slavery, so the white only points out that it's not like those unfortunate Africans on the cocoa plantations (insert any other non-white not-primarily-sexual slavery here).


Topic!Cindy - May 12, 2005 8:36:30 am PDT #3621 of 10001
What is even happening?

But it's about the primary purpose. Some people are enslaved to be laborers, some to be prostitutes. Even if they all get raped, the rape isn't necessarily the point.
For me, the flipside of using "sexual slavery" is that sexual slavery = forced prostitution = rape arranged by an agent you didn't contract with in the first place. I think I might just use the word slavery. It all a form of rape--because the person's right to self-determination is taken away by force.