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What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DXMachina - May 10, 2005 8:29:14 am PDT #2765 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Huh. Amazon has reinstated a new and improved gold box. Now it shows you two items, and you can keep one or the other of the items available while you look at the next in line. Pretty neat.


Sparky1 - May 10, 2005 8:30:21 am PDT #2766 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

Here's another one Kate -- the digital divide is widening and you want to help close it and think libraries are the answer.


shrift - May 10, 2005 8:31:46 am PDT #2767 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

She's still yucky because the white trash lurks beneath.

I've got white trash running through my veins. Where's my fame and glamour? Am I not woman enough to fill the bra of a cleavagey slutbomb?


DavidS - May 10, 2005 8:32:02 am PDT #2768 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Ha! Considering your take on "authenticity," I'd think you would love this book when you're not rolling your eyes at De Zengotita's self-indulgence.

Heh. No, I saw the book and was intrigued. Though I did get that basic thesis from reading the Ballard intro I referenced.

From Ballard I got: It's not the portrayal of violence in the media which has desensitized people and made them alienated from their own experience. It's that we are aswim in a world of constant narrative, where every television ad is a tiny story. That culture has superseded experience and we check our emotions against this narrative white noise instead trusting what we feel, or even having an interior emotional context in which to place those feelings.


Kate P. - May 10, 2005 8:35:16 am PDT #2769 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

the digital divide is widening and you want to help close it and think libraries are the answer.

Ooh, interesting. What exactly do you mean by "the digital divide"? Who is on which side of the divide?


Emily - May 10, 2005 8:35:34 am PDT #2770 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Dude. I broke a law without knowing it! I spent two years breaking it! Er, assuming the statute of limitations has expired on what's essentially a blue book law in a state I don't live in.


Sue - May 10, 2005 8:38:32 am PDT #2771 of 10001
hip deep in pie

Ooh, interesting. What exactly do you mean by "the digital divide"? Who is on which side of the divide?

I was just going to mention the digital divide. Those who have access to computer, the internet, and benefits of that information vs. those who, because of socio-economic factors (poverty, illiteracy, geography), do not have the same kind of access. There's the rich/poor, urban/rural, first/third world divides.


Hayden - May 10, 2005 8:40:24 am PDT #2772 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Though I did get that basic thesis from reading the Ballard intro I referenced.

Yeah, what amused me was the reflexivity of your reply. Which is exactly what Mediated is about.

From Ballard I got: It's not the portrayal of violence in the media which has desensitized people and made them alienated from their own experience. It's that we are aswim in a world of constant narrative, where every television ad is a tiny story. That culture has superseded experience and we check our emotions against this narrative white noise instead trusting what we feel, or even having an interior emotional context in which to place those feelings.

Sure. De Zengotita starts the book by discussing where he was when Kennedy was shot: in a method acting class. When the first person came by to tell the class that the President had been shot, the people thought it was an acting exercise and attempted to get in touch with their emotions about that. When they found out he'd died, they all had a visible outpouring of emotion, such that when they found out it was true, they were all embarrassed to be unable to separate the representation of their emotions from the reality. He claims that everyone is a method actor now, because the media feeds egos so effortlessly now that people cannot distinguish between how they feel and how they are supposed to feel. There's a lot more rolled into this concept, but that's the heart of it.


Sparky1 - May 10, 2005 8:41:24 am PDT #2773 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

What exactly do you mean by "the digital divide"? Who is on which side of the divide?

I'm talking about the have and the have not issue. For instance, the Gov't Publishing Office is making more of its publications available only via the Internet. No computer, no access. Additionally, there are rumblings that while everything the GPO puts up on the Internet will be available for reading for free, to actually print or download may someday cost money.

What's real access to a computer? Do you have to own it? Do you need DSL or something very speedy to effectively have access to everything that's available? Is it enough to put one in a library for public access? What about the filters that places (even some libraries) apply?

signed, librarian, married to an educator


Nilly - May 10, 2005 8:43:48 am PDT #2774 of 10001
Swouncing

Sparky! I can't remember when I last posted with you. It's good to "see" you.

Emily, outlaw Emily! Exclamation points!