Sometimes when I'm sitting in class... You know, I'm not thinking about class, 'cause that would never happen. I think about kissing you. And it's like everything stops. It's like, it's like freeze frame. Willow kissage.

Oz ,'First Date'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Dana - May 04, 2005 5:11:18 am PDT #1141 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Today, I'm going to a used bookstore to sell back two boxes of books.

TWO BOXES.

I feel kind of light-headed.


msbelle - May 04, 2005 5:23:24 am PDT #1142 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Oh how I love VM. love love love love love. still, it kinda rubbed me wrong that after discovering your maybe half-brother had sex with you that you don't remember - that you would be giggly making out with new bf who happens to be at least tangentially involved in the events that let to the not!rape.

I am now spinning three ideas about the finale, all are probably wrong, but anyway: idea 1: Momma Cane is the killer. we know she is a cold evil bitch and was jealous/hateful toward her daughter.

idea 2: Momma Mars is the killer. two thoughts on this - we know she was seeing Mr. Cane and we know she drinks, but I am not sure we have a valid timeline on either. Maybe a drunken rage? Maybe Lilly found out about Veronica's daddy question. This would devastate Veronica and a devastated lead is always good.

idea 3: Aaron Echolls is the killer. We know he is violent and possibly a little crazy and not above getting a little ass on the side. I hope that the camera stuff in the pool house is his doing. And, I would not doubt if Lilly was open to a fling with him. This of course would mess with Logan even more, as if he needs more breaking.


ChiKat - May 04, 2005 5:25:31 am PDT #1143 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I need help from the hivemind...

What are some pop culture/film/tv/literary examples of marriage being a physical, spiritual, or career death to a man? I can think of the movie Black Widow. Any other thoughts?

[background: I'm taking a medieval women's lit class and one of our final questions is to trace an antifeminist stereotype through some of the stuff we read and to bring it into modern day]


Theodosia - May 04, 2005 5:30:22 am PDT #1144 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Ugh. Still haven't woken up entirely, so it's time to take some caffeine, even if I wanted to minimize it this week. I have to be able to function for my job....


tommyrot - May 04, 2005 5:30:32 am PDT #1145 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

What are some pop culture/film/tv/literary examples of marriage being a physical, spiritual, or career death to a man?

Star Wars episodes 2 and 3.

If the Jedi councel find out Anakin's married, he looses his Jedi Knight status.

Can't think of anything else, although I'm sure there's more.

eta: Some have thought that Lou Reed's music suffered when he got married and his outlook on life grew less pessamistic.


Cashmere - May 04, 2005 5:30:54 am PDT #1146 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Cashmere, I stayed up to watch Christiane Amanpour on TDS, but then passed out. Did you catch it?

Missed the replay this morning. We were watching the Bear in the Big Blue House. But I think DH recorded it for me last night. I hope. I haven't checked yet.


Calli - May 04, 2005 5:31:19 am PDT #1147 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

ChiKat, would Madame Bovary fit the bill? I think that Dr. Bovary's wife pressures him to try some risky proceedure that ends up crippling the patient and messing up his career.

You can download it here, if that helps: [link]


Frankenbuddha - May 04, 2005 5:32:36 am PDT #1148 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

ChiKat, pretty much anything by August Strindberg will fit the bill from what I understand, though I've never read any of his stuff myself. Actually, the Scandanavians are good for that kind of thing - I'm sure there are several Bergman movies that would fit the bill.

And of course, there's that laugh riot ETHAN FROMME.

Is that what you're looking for, or am I looking at your question wrong?


amych - May 04, 2005 5:34:41 am PDT #1149 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

What are some pop culture/film/tv/literary examples of marriage being a physical, spiritual, or career death to a man?

Every ball-and-chain joke since the beginning of time.


beathen - May 04, 2005 5:37:03 am PDT #1150 of 10001
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

I normally don't watch TV on Tuesdays, but last night I happened to be watching L&O:SVU and Bradley Cooper was on (Will from Alias). What a cutie. (I'm a sucker for blue eyes.)