Am I supposed to be changing my clothes a lot? Is that the helpful thing to do?

Anya ,'Storyteller'


Spike's Bitches 23: We've mastered the power of positive giving up.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Laura - May 15, 2005 2:32:39 pm PDT #9281 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I think the only film I liked with Cruise was Risky Business which was much fun.


Stephanie - May 15, 2005 2:36:03 pm PDT #9282 of 10001
Trust my rage

I wanted to be a fighter pilot or fly with the Blue Angels.

ME TOO! And it was all because of Top Gun. They didn't let women fly fighter planes when I was applying to schools or I would have applied to the Naval Academy. I was almost an Army helicopter pilot but I let me parents and loser ex-husband talk me out of it. I guess it worked out okay in the end, however, because I would never have met Joe if I had gone that route.

Still, I used to get goosebumps watching the Thunderbirds fly over my house on special Air Force game days.


Cass - May 15, 2005 2:55:05 pm PDT #9283 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Yep, living near Miramar definitely has its advantages... I love the jets.

( Though not the Sharks as I have an unusual hate-on for West Side Story. )


SailAweigh - May 15, 2005 2:55:49 pm PDT #9284 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Aimee, you have to understand the squadron may have had 35/40 pilot-instructors, but it had a maintenance crew of around 125 to take care of all the airplanes. So, I did not "go" to Topgun, I was part of Topgun for two years as an electronics technician that supported the avionics equipment onboard the aircraft. The class that fighter pilots went to was five weeks long, then we'd be "down" for three weeks getting the planes back into shape for the next class. Sending a graduating class "bye-bye" was always cause for a squadron party, I think we had more of them than any other squadron on base.

Stephanie, you must have just missed the cutoff when it came to women in fighter planes. By the time I got out in '93, it wasn't common, but it was happening. All the carriers had been opened to women, so they had to start letting them into all the various types of squadrons by then. Still, women only make up a little over 10% of the Navy, so you're not going to see a lot of female pilots.


Aims - May 15, 2005 2:59:52 pm PDT #9285 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Sail, that's awesomer than going. Still in love.


Stephanie - May 15, 2005 3:05:18 pm PDT #9286 of 10001
Trust my rage

By the time I got out in '93, it wasn't common, but it was happening.

Yep - I would have started in '92. When they opened it up to women, I briefly considered transferring, but since I had been able to take 2 years of college during high school, going to an academy would have meant starting from scratch after 3 years of college.


SailAweigh - May 15, 2005 3:11:43 pm PDT #9287 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

going to an academy would have meant starting from scratch after 3 years of college.

Now, that would have been of the suck. I can see why you chose not to go that route.


Stephanie - May 15, 2005 3:24:33 pm PDT #9288 of 10001
Trust my rage

Yeah, I remember the announcement pretty clearly because it was the first time I realized that I was old enough that certain doors had closed to me.

I don't know about your experience, but one of the reasons I'm okay with not having done it is because in my experience, being a woman in the military is a constant battle to prove yourself good enough, tough enough, and strong enough. I could never carry enough, walk as far, do as many push-ups, etc. as the guys I was with. It had nothing to do with my ability to do my job, but I got tired of always feeling inadequate before I'd even lifted a finger.


Lilty Cash - May 15, 2005 3:28:41 pm PDT #9289 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

Happy Anniversary, Hec and JZ!!!

Man, Extreme Home Makeover must be saying to itself "There's some bitch in Maine ain't crying yet. Time to kick it up a notch."


Katerina Bee - May 15, 2005 3:34:09 pm PDT #9290 of 10001
Herding cats for fun

Happy Anniversary to Chez Zmayhem, who had one of the loveliest weddings ever, plus the way-cool soundtrack!