Ah, the pitter patter of tiny feet in huge combat boots. Shut up!

Mal ,'War Stories'


Spike's Bitches 23: We've mastered the power of positive giving up.  

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SailAweigh - Apr 24, 2005 10:47:09 am PDT #5423 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Cripes, the number of bruises on my hips from thinking they're the size they were when I was 20? I can't walk by any type of projecting piece of architecture without carrying semi-permanent reminders.


Cass - Apr 24, 2005 10:57:55 am PDT #5424 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Yep...

The futon frame in my office that has banged up my thigh more times than I can count is a classic bruise for me...

Between bruising easily and being as clumsy as a puppy on linoleum? I am actually disturbed that a doctor hasn't at least asked me if there is anything going on.

"Ouch... Now that's going to leave a mark!"


§ ita § - Apr 24, 2005 11:01:08 am PDT #5425 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Because certainly there are people out there who get suspicious-looking bruises for totally innocuous reasons.

Not only am I that person, I help make other people that person too.

Signed,
Split Lip Is Only Scar Tissue Now.


P.M. Marc - Apr 24, 2005 11:02:39 am PDT #5426 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Cripes, the number of bruises on my hips from thinking they're the size they were when I was 20? I can't walk by any type of projecting piece of architecture without carrying semi-permanent reminders.

There was (and still is, but I no longer live there) a telephone table in the hallway leading to my old bedroom in the house where I grew up. It made the hallway slightly too narrow for someone stumbling in from the computer at three in the morning. It had sharp, pokey edges. I had frequent, large bruises.


Emily - Apr 24, 2005 11:08:05 am PDT #5427 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

So, it's a serious question. How do they tell? I mean, I'm sure they're supposed to look for behavioral clues as well, and all that. Of course, then it comes down to being able to read people -- do doctors get a lot of training in that?


Cass - Apr 24, 2005 11:19:51 am PDT #5428 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

In my case, I really don't think my doctor would ever notice such things or ask any questions. Which is really tragic.

When I have gone in, he hasn't even asked what happened. I just get all nervous in doctor's offices which can lead to getting chatty.

I hope he is the exception and not the rule.


Scrappy - Apr 24, 2005 11:20:11 am PDT #5429 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Also, I woiuld think bruises on hips and legs are pretty common from klutziness (they sure are with me) and uncommon for abuse--someone is more like to hit you in the face from anger than on the hip or the back of the leg.


§ ita § - Apr 24, 2005 11:32:35 am PDT #5430 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I did a quick googling on injury patterns.

Kids:

  • Bruises that result from abuse tend to be larger; are more common on the face, back, abdomen, arms, buttocks, ears and hands -- and often occur in clusters
  • Bruises on uncommonly injured body surfaces
  • Blunt-instrument marks or burns
  • Human hand marks or bite marks
  • Multiple injuries at different stages of healing
  • Circumferential immersion burns
  • Unexplained retinal hemorrhages
  • Children seldom bruise their buttocks in accidental falls.
  • Bruises on the buttocks are in the primary target zone for nonaccidental injury.

Elderly:

  • Sprains, dislocations, fractures, or broken bones
  • Burns from cigarettes, appliances, or hot water
  • Abrasions on arms, legs, or torso that resemble rope or strap marks
  • Internal injuries evidenced by pain, difficulty with normal functioning of organs, and bleeding from body orifices
Bruises. The following types of bruises are rarely accidental:
  • Bilateral bruising to the arms (may indicate that the person has been shaken, grabbed, or restrained)
  • Bilateral bruising of the inner thighs (may indicate sexual abuse)
  • "Wrap around" bruises that encircle an older person's arms, legs, or torso (may indicate that the person has been physically restrained)
  • Multicolored bruises (indicating that they were sustained over time)
  • Injuries healing through "secondary intention" (indicating that they did not receive appropriate care)
  • Signs of traumatic hair and tooth loss

Domestic violence:

  • Chronic pain and /or areas of tenderness especially at the extremities
  • Bruises, welts, edema or scars, particularly in the genital and anal areas and the breasts
  • Swelling of eyes
  • Split lip
  • Ubconjunctival hemorrhage
  • Signs of choking on throat
  • Intra-abdominal injury
  • Shoulder dislocation

Which is to say, sadly, there are a million ways to do it. I don't think (and that's why I started googling) that it's all about the face.


vw bug - Apr 24, 2005 11:33:33 am PDT #5431 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

I just had a couple hours of hanging out at the library with my friend and her son. SUCH fun! He is such a cutie. My favorite part? He came running into the little cafe area yelling, "Valrie! I made Shrek burp! And LOUD!"

And then there was the leaving..."Have a good Monday!"


Scrappy - Apr 24, 2005 11:35:05 am PDT #5432 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

But nothing about the outside of hip bruises the clumsy get. I would assume someone who looks well kept and unbruised anywhere else and has no history on their chart of any other injuries would not raise a red flag the way somene presenting with any of the items on your list would.