Police procedure has changed since I was little.

Wash ,'The Message'


Spike's Bitches 23: We've mastered the power of positive giving up.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


§ ita § - Apr 19, 2005 1:44:34 pm PDT #4479 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I feel weird being on the more conservative side of the term, since I got no problem with casual sex.

But hey. I don't feel being called a slut is life-ending either, so that may be it. I've been called it before, I'll probably be called it again.


Betsy HP - Apr 19, 2005 1:45:28 pm PDT #4480 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

JZ got it much better than I did.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 19, 2005 1:50:59 pm PDT #4481 of 10001
What is even happening?

Slut is just a word used to insult women for being sexual beings. I try not to use it. I itch when I see it. There's no masculine counterpart that carries the same sting, because of broader sexual...I don't even want to call them mores--opinions, maybe?

Anyhow, I'm agin it, and I'm for Gris, if he's anti-it.


Karl - Apr 19, 2005 1:52:10 pm PDT #4482 of 10001
I adore all you motherfuckers so much -- PMM.

Holy cats, Bob Harris knows Robin/Scrappy? He just got so much cooler in my book.

(Robin, of course, can get no cooler, having reached the top of my personal Cool Food Chain.)


§ ita § - Apr 19, 2005 1:56:07 pm PDT #4483 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Huh. I have never hesitated to call a man a slut. Did so this weekend, in fact, quite a few times. I'm also fond of the term man-whore.


JZ - Apr 19, 2005 1:57:31 pm PDT #4484 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Over the past 2-3 years I've read three or four parenting/counseling books like Reviving Ophelia, Odd Girl Out, and The Sex Lives of Teenagers, along with I can't even begin to count how many newspaper and magazine articles, and it's kind of disheartening how little has changed in the last few decades WRT adolescents and young adults and the way they see female sexuality.

The double standard about a boy who has shitloads of sex with anything that moves (or lies about it and pretends he has) is great, and a girl who is visibly connected to her sexuality -- anything from actually sleeping around to sleeping with her steady boyfriend to being a virgin who wears sexy outfits to school -- is slapped down for it, hard. And of course girls do just as much of the enforcing and punishing as boys do.

It's something that therapists and teachers and counselors have been aware of for a while, and working to change, but it doesn't seem to make a lot of difference.


Scrappy - Apr 19, 2005 1:58:43 pm PDT #4485 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Bob is a wonderful guy. How do you know him, Karl?

p.s. thanks for the sweet talk.


erikaj - Apr 19, 2005 2:01:18 pm PDT #4486 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Karl is great with the sweet talk.


Steph L. - Apr 19, 2005 2:01:35 pm PDT #4487 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Ummm, love blondies too.

And I love you, too....


§ ita § - Apr 19, 2005 2:02:04 pm PDT #4488 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The double standard about a boy who has shitloads of sex with anything that moves (or lies about it and pretends he has) is great, and a girl who is visibly connected to her sexuality

I'm not denying this, for the record. I'm just surprised that men can't be called sluts. I'd have thought the quoted truth would just mean their barrier to entry (I know) is just much higher.