Jayne: You wanna go, little man? Wash: Only if it's someplace with candlelight.

'Objects In Space'


Spike's Bitches 23: We've mastered the power of positive giving up.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Steph L. - Apr 19, 2005 2:01:35 pm PDT #4487 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Ummm, love blondies too.

And I love you, too....


§ ita § - Apr 19, 2005 2:02:04 pm PDT #4488 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The double standard about a boy who has shitloads of sex with anything that moves (or lies about it and pretends he has) is great, and a girl who is visibly connected to her sexuality

I'm not denying this, for the record. I'm just surprised that men can't be called sluts. I'd have thought the quoted truth would just mean their barrier to entry (I know) is just much higher.


Karl - Apr 19, 2005 2:02:12 pm PDT #4489 of 10001
I adore all you motherfuckers so much -- PMM.

I know of him from his association with Dan Perkins (Tom Tomorrow) at This Modern World, where Bob originally posted his round-the-world travelogue.

I don't know him personally, but I'm a great admirer of his work.


Gris - Apr 19, 2005 2:03:13 pm PDT #4490 of 10001
Hey. New board.

I'm also fond of the term man-whore.

You know, I've found that this term is catching on in the more liberal social circles, especially in my generation (maybe in older generations, too, but I'm also from Mississippi, where liberalizing is always a few years lagging). I've also discovered, sadly, that most of the time it's used jokingly, with very little in the way of condemnation. Of course, I actually prefer that, and wish that the term "slut" would be treated the same way but, well, it's just not. Even by my good friends, very liberal, very open-minded, the future of the country, the word "slut" or "whore" applied to a girl will usually be said with anger and disdain while the word "slut" or "whore" applied to a guy will be as often said with grudging admiration.


erikaj - Apr 19, 2005 2:08:16 pm PDT #4491 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I'm touched that you are taking this on.(Although if we had this conversation f2f, I'd be thinking you might use it to get play... sadly men who talk feminism who aren't bitches make me think it's a bit.)


Jessica - Apr 19, 2005 2:22:28 pm PDT #4492 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Maybe my memory's going, but I can't remember Rory being called a slut by anyone but herself, in a conversation with Lane, and doing it in a totally jokey, nonjudgemental way. Did I miss something?


Gris - Apr 19, 2005 2:25:18 pm PDT #4493 of 10001
Hey. New board.

It wasn't done in the show. It was done on Television Without Pity, and random web forums, and in polls across Livejournal, and even hinted at by Entertainment Weekly.

Generally, I've been quite satisfied with the show's treatment of it, actually.


vw bug - Apr 19, 2005 2:28:13 pm PDT #4494 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

Not!Emily Roommate just asked me how to turn the oven on. I thought that would amuse at least Cindy.


Jessica - Apr 19, 2005 2:32:06 pm PDT #4495 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Oh, gotcha. Lousy internets.

I do think that for Rory, her behavior this year could be called slutty, given that she was such a prissy little bookworm in high school. (And thank goodness too, because the Perfect Rory Sue Who Everyone Thinks Is Special thing was getting old.)


Gris - Apr 19, 2005 2:35:42 pm PDT #4496 of 10001
Hey. New board.

Dude. I was a prissy little bookworm in high school. I started having some sex in college, and thoroughly enjoyed it. That's not sluttiness, it's growing up. But, again, it's probably just a random word-pinging in my head that makes me differentiate.

I don't think Rory's any better now than in high school. Maybe even more insufferable. If she weren't so incredibly beautiful, I'd sure be annoyed by her. She kind of reminds me of one of my exes, actually. Paris is much more entertaining, and is completely the reason I'm still watching.