And remember, if you hurt her, I will beat you to death with a shovel.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Spike's Bitches 23: We've mastered the power of positive giving up.  

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-t - Apr 14, 2005 11:19:20 am PDT #3600 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I like to think she's Cabbage Patching.

That's all I can see now.

I'm with Susan on NYC. Every time I visit, I catch myself thinking "I could live here", but reading the Times Style section every Sunday makes me think I couldn't.

(eta: Pretty number)


Betsy HP - Apr 14, 2005 11:20:37 am PDT #3601 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Saying that "Ephedra has been safely consumed for hundreds of years" is like saying "Coca leaf has been safely consumed for hundreds of years": true but irrelevant. People weren't taking ephedra in large quantities 100 years ago, and they weren't taking refined ephedra.


Tom Scola - Apr 14, 2005 11:20:52 am PDT #3602 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

NYC isn't big. NYC is a lot of small villages, smooshed very close together.


Aims - Apr 14, 2005 11:23:13 am PDT #3603 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Saying that "Ephedra has been safely consumed for hundreds of years" is like saying "Coca leaf has been safely consumed for hundreds of years": true but irrelevant. People weren't taking ephedra in large quantities 100 years ago, and they weren't taking refined ephedra.

True enough, but I'm pretty sure that if you eat too many Vitamin C tablts, you die. For some people, who are conscious of the risks and act accordingly, ephedra is safe.


Stephanie - Apr 14, 2005 11:23:38 am PDT #3604 of 10001
Trust my rage

I would like to live in NYC for about 2 years. Enough to get the experience, but after that, I think I'd be ready to move on.


Betsy HP - Apr 14, 2005 11:24:42 am PDT #3605 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

If you eat too many Vitamin C tablets, you just have very expensive pee. Too much Vitamin A, on the other hand, can kill, which is why you should never eat polar bear liver.

[Oops. That's Vitamin A, not Vitamin D.]


Aims - Apr 14, 2005 11:25:33 am PDT #3606 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

t checks polar bear liver off the menu for tonight


-t - Apr 14, 2005 11:25:40 am PDT #3607 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I don't know if it's irrelevant to the ruling. He hasn't released it from regulation, or declared it safe or anything. I think saying "It has been taken safely" is relevant to a decision whether it needs to be banned or can maybe be regulated.


Betsy HP - Apr 14, 2005 11:26:28 am PDT #3608 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

But when you say "100s of years", you aren't talking about ephedra in the form in which it was removed from the market. You're talking about herbal teas, which are a much, much weaker formulation.


-t - Apr 14, 2005 11:26:51 am PDT #3609 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I thought polar bear liver was full of Vitamin E. But I learned that from a Dick Francis novel.