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Betsy HP - Apr 14, 2005 11:24:42 am PDT #3605 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

If you eat too many Vitamin C tablets, you just have very expensive pee. Too much Vitamin A, on the other hand, can kill, which is why you should never eat polar bear liver.

[Oops. That's Vitamin A, not Vitamin D.]


Aims - Apr 14, 2005 11:25:33 am PDT #3606 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

t checks polar bear liver off the menu for tonight


-t - Apr 14, 2005 11:25:40 am PDT #3607 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I don't know if it's irrelevant to the ruling. He hasn't released it from regulation, or declared it safe or anything. I think saying "It has been taken safely" is relevant to a decision whether it needs to be banned or can maybe be regulated.


Betsy HP - Apr 14, 2005 11:26:28 am PDT #3608 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

But when you say "100s of years", you aren't talking about ephedra in the form in which it was removed from the market. You're talking about herbal teas, which are a much, much weaker formulation.


-t - Apr 14, 2005 11:26:51 am PDT #3609 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I thought polar bear liver was full of Vitamin E. But I learned that from a Dick Francis novel.


Aims - Apr 14, 2005 11:27:16 am PDT #3610 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Disclaimer: I'm very "legalize it all and tax it to hell" when it comes to drugs. It'd make good income for the country and, well, free up our prison systems. But, this is not an educated, read a bunch of studies, knowedgeable line if thinking. This is just my own gut.


-t - Apr 14, 2005 11:27:28 am PDT #3611 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Can you get herbal teas with ephedra in them now?


Aims - Apr 14, 2005 11:27:53 am PDT #3612 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I don't believe so.


-t - Apr 14, 2005 11:29:43 am PDT #3613 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Then I stand by my point.


Betsy HP - Apr 14, 2005 11:31:20 am PDT #3614 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Yes, you can still buy ephedra tea, at least according to my Googling.

The FTC actions challenge false advertising claims that the ephedra supplements cause rapid, substantial, and permanent weight-loss without diet or exercise, and that “clinical studies” or “medical research” prove these claims. The FTC also challenges claims that the ephedra weight-loss products are “100% safe,” “perfectly safe,” or have “no side effects.”

So we aren't talking about "Aunt Nellie's Ma Huang, eat at own risk". We're talking about a human-altered drug, taken in highly concentrated form, with false claims of safety.