I'm so sorry, but if it makes you feel any better, my fun-time-Buffy party night involved watching a robot throw Spike through a window, so if you want to trade... no wait, I wouldn't give up that memory for anything.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


Spike's Bitches 23: We've mastered the power of positive giving up.  

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vw bug - Apr 13, 2005 2:50:52 am PDT #2974 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

Nora...NO BEATING YOURSELF UP. This is not "Classic Nora." This is maybe not the most effective thing you've ever done, but not the end of the world. You're first-time home buyers...there are gonna be mistakes and bumps in the road. It's gonna be ok.

Can you call the bank and warn them? Let them know that it was an honest mistake and you misunderstood? Maybe they can make a note in your account... They're a bank. They deal with first-time home buyers all the time.

Also, I'm so sorry about the headache. That is not fun.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 13, 2005 3:06:03 am PDT #2975 of 10001
What is even happening?

I need help from the hivemind. I might xpost this is Natter. I hope that's not a problem.

Through the ages, before great advances in science and the medical arts, how did people explain conception and pregnancy?

I'm figuring the cause and effect relationship to sex was virtually always understood. But is there somewhere I can find some (dumbed down) scholarship on primitive and/or ancient theories on what happened?

I seem to recall before it was known that the male contributed the sperm and the female contributed the egg, that one theory was that the male sort of planted a whole mini-baby, but can't--for the life of me--remember which society, or when.

Any information and/or links would be helpful, thanks. I don't need in-depth stuff, fwiw.


Nora Deirdre - Apr 13, 2005 3:06:42 am PDT #2976 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Today is Tom's turn to deal with stuff, he's handling this snafu - the transfer of funds, and calling the bank- as well as hiring us a real estate law...talking...guy. The two tasks are not related, BTW.

I am actively trying not to beat myself up- I just flash to a place where I was, praying for my paycheck to appear before everyone started depositing their payments from me. And when I do it out of absentmindedness, rather than lack of money, it's almost worse.

I'm trying to talk myself out of that though. This headache makes it so hard to think. Except for "ow."


Topic!Cindy - Apr 13, 2005 3:10:43 am PDT #2977 of 10001
What is even happening?

Nora, I've had a headache off and on since the weekend. I hope your poor head gets some rest. Everything will work out with the house and the money.

the transfer of funds, and calling the bank- as well as hiring us a real estate law...talking...guy. The two tasks are not related, BTW.
FWIW, we needed a lawyer for the sale of our house, and purchase of this one, because there were some out-of-the-ordinary circumstances involving both, and because we wanted to structure our P&S for this house, such that if the buyer of our old house backed out, we wouldn't be screwed for the 5% we were putting down with the P&S of this house.

Anyhow, we approached the lawyer we had to pay to work for the bank (for all the mortgage stuff) about working for us, as well. He was willing, and was reasonable--price-wise, because he was already involved in the transaction, anyhow.


Cashmere - Apr 13, 2005 3:42:34 am PDT #2978 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

It's after 8:30 and Owen's still asleep. This is unheard of. I've checked on him three times. He didn't even get up last night--just once this morning around 5--but he went right back to sleep. He then usually gets up by 7. Maybe he's going through a growth spurt.

I should probably shower while I have this time to myself.


Hil R. - Apr 13, 2005 4:02:40 am PDT #2979 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I seem to recall before it was known that the male contributed the sperm and the female contributed the egg, that one theory was that the male sort of planted a whole mini-baby, but can't--for the life of me--remember which society, or when.

I'm pretty sure I remember that as being ancient Greece. Possibly some other places, too.


Deena - Apr 13, 2005 4:30:27 am PDT #2980 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Yay for Nicole guestage! I hope you guys are having a blast.

Much ~ma for your mom, Calli.


-t - Apr 13, 2005 4:34:43 am PDT #2981 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I think Greece around the time of Plato and those guys had the idea that the woman was just a vessel for the man's generative seed. I don't know when/how that changed, though.

Nora's headache, begone!

All these yard sales and people moving makes me want to pack something up.

(Eep, ~ma for Calli and Calli's mom!)


Topic!Cindy - Apr 13, 2005 4:41:54 am PDT #2982 of 10001
What is even happening?

Oh Calli, lots of health and healing to your mom, and calm to you.

I'm pretty sure I remember that as being ancient Greece. Possibly some other places, too.
I think Greece around the time of Plato and those guys had the idea that the woman was just a vessel for the man's generative seed. I don't know when/how that changed, though.
Thank, Hil and -t. Do you have any idea where I could find a bunch of these sorts of theories? I can't even come up with useful search terms, for Google.


Connie Neil - Apr 13, 2005 4:42:59 am PDT #2983 of 10001
brillig

re: theories of conception.

I'm fairly sure that the idea of a male impregnating a woman with a Mini-Me hung on into the Middle Ages. The idea that sex caused babies came about pretty quick once people started raising herd animals and were able to observe the goings-on (but you knew that). I'm not sure when the concept of how and when the sex of the baby was determined was understood.

Just spent a few moments trying to find a website. Tricky search. Still looking.