As Willow goes, so goes my nation.

Oz ,'Selfless'


Spike's Bitches 23: We've mastered the power of positive giving up.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Ginger - Apr 10, 2005 1:00:59 pm PDT #2424 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

The first couple are of Bastet trying to figure out how to get to the hanging tulips.

Anyone want to lay odds on Bastet vs. tulips?

She was just very stubborn.

Why am I not surprised?


brenda m - Apr 10, 2005 1:09:37 pm PDT #2425 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

She was just very stubborn.

Well, good thing that's changed.


beth b - Apr 10, 2005 1:46:39 pm PDT #2426 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

apt looks great vw. and toto looks very happy on his throne.

I just watched 3 episodes of Wonderfalls - I have had the dvd's for awhile and finally picked up.


Scrappy - Apr 10, 2005 1:49:21 pm PDT #2427 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

How are you feeling, Beth?


Deena - Apr 10, 2005 2:37:35 pm PDT #2428 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Hee! Someday it will be called determination, and be a positive trait. Just not by me.

I haven't seen all of wonderfalls yet. Someday, I suppose.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 10, 2005 3:05:16 pm PDT #2429 of 10001
What is even happening?

That said, I am looking forward to going into labor on my own this time as I think it will feel shorter and less tiring if I get to spend part of it at home.
This is how it was for me. With Ben, I was at the hospital all night. With Chris, I stayed home until about 3 hours before he was born, and was much less worn out. Of course Chris was born in the early evening as opposed to Ben's first thing in the morning birth. I wouldn't have had much rest if I stayed home for a long time with Ben, either. Julia's delivery was nearly as fast (hospital-time-wise) as Chris's, and she was induced, although all they had to do to induce her was break my water.

I had episiotomies with all three. The one I had with Julia, I wouldn't have known I had, had I not been awake for it. That's the only one of my deliveries my own OB (from a larger practice) was able to attend. He was a master. I never felt it. I never felt it healing, either. Ben? It felt like I was cut from the nape of my neck, down around and up to my collar bone, and I think I could still point to the right spot. With Chris, it wasn't bad, but it wasn't as good as the one with Julia.

My best friend tore very, very badly to the front on her third baby, and is practically an episiotomy evangelist. My own OB wasn't big on episiotomies, and said we'd avoid one if we could. I don't know the philosophy of the other two who attended Ben and Chris's deliveries. I trusted their judgment, as they had a better eye view of the situation than I did.


Susan W. - Apr 10, 2005 3:28:08 pm PDT #2430 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Someone remind me I should wait until I'm a popular author with some money and space to burn before I start collecting things like this: [link]

or these: [link]

Because I want them! And that advancing sergeant would look so perfect on my desk! Spike and Boromir need a new friend!


Burrell - Apr 10, 2005 3:34:57 pm PDT #2431 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I had an episiotomy. My OB says that they tend to do them if they are worried that the tear will be bad or will go off in a funny direction. Anyway, I couldn't really feel it except for when she was sewing it up (because by then the epi was dialed down so low). In my thinking, I imagine the difference between a tear and an epi is not nearly so great as the difference between either of them and the woman who skates by with neither.

But let's be honest (whitefonted for the sake of those who are going through this soon and don't have memory to remind them), no matter what, you take a real beating down there. It's not pretty.


Amy - Apr 10, 2005 3:42:48 pm PDT #2432 of 10001
Because books.

My OB says that they tend to do them if they are worried that the tear will be bad or will go off in a funny direction.

I tore really badly with Ben, my second, and I just remember being bored out of my mind while the OB was sewing it up, because it seemed to take so long. Healing was kind of a non-issue, because I didn't have anything to compare it to -- Jake had been a C-section.

With Sara, the OB (whitefonted for possible TMI) kept rubbing what was essentially KY jelly, I guess, all over the area, and I didn't tear at all, which seemed weird because she was a pound bigger than Ben. It seemed so smart, and made me wonder why my other OB hadn't thought of the whole lube issue. .

And you're absolutely right, Burrell. That's why ice packs are your very best friend.


sj - Apr 10, 2005 3:46:20 pm PDT #2433 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Deena, if you're around can you hop on AIM for a minute.