My whole life, I've never loved anything else.

Oz ,'Him'


Spike's Bitches 23: We've mastered the power of positive giving up.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


-t - Apr 05, 2005 6:13:44 am PDT #1348 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm so sorry, Gud. You have my best wishes.


Stephanie - Apr 05, 2005 6:16:23 am PDT #1349 of 10001
Trust my rage

So sorry Gud.


Nora Deirdre - Apr 05, 2005 6:19:58 am PDT #1350 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

See, my thing always was that if we had a friendship first, I had a very hard time seeing them in a sexy light (men and women both).

Well, Tom is all mysterious and British which kept sexiness alive. (heh) Plus, I suspect I was in love with him all along. We were friends due to circumstance (my toxic relationship with crazy-ex) but our attraction persevered through the 2+ years we knew each other before we started dating. But, you know, totally under the surface, due to relationship, Britishness, and general insecurity on both sides.

And, Gud. I am am so sorry. I hope you guys keep pushing through to the other side, and this will finally be behind you.


Betsy HP - Apr 05, 2005 6:20:00 am PDT #1351 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Bless you, Gud. I'm sorry.

-t, how are you doing? I've been thinking of you often.


Trudy Booth - Apr 05, 2005 6:28:22 am PDT #1352 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm sorry you're having such a rough time, Gud. I wish there were something I or anyone could do.


Susan W. - Apr 05, 2005 6:28:58 am PDT #1353 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

{{{Gud}}} I'm so sorry.

{{{-t}}} I think I'd go postal if I discovered previously unsuspected debts just now.

Hooray for Nora and Tom's grown-up house-buying abilities.

DH and I fell into love and best friendship in the same 48-hour period right after we met. Which I wouldn't have believed possible before meeting him. I was a big believer in the You Must Be Best Friends FIRST theory of relationships. Which mostly meant that, having secured a male best friend freshman year in college, I just couldn't let go of the idea we were destined for each other.

I'm angsting about money again.


DavidS - Apr 05, 2005 6:34:04 am PDT #1354 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Ugh, my marriage is on the rocks again. Don't know how this is going to end.

Oh, fuck. I'm sorry Gud. I am hoping hoping hoping this works out for you and your family.


Scrappy - Apr 05, 2005 6:35:44 am PDT #1355 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Aw, Gud, wishing you the best.

I have to have both love and friendship for a relationship to last. My parents were friends for 7 years before they married, so maybe that's a part of it. I will say that of my circle of acquaintances, the two most "romantic" --the ones who believe only in love at first sight and both of whom say they can't be friends with someone they date--are the ones still unattached in their late 40s. Both of them have had lots of partners over the years, but they would fall for someone, start dating, get to actually KNOW the person, and then lose affection. I think love at first sight can lead to lasting love--but that's more of an anomaly than a likelihood.


ChiKat - Apr 05, 2005 6:37:51 am PDT #1356 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

{{{Gud}}} I am so sorry. I wish I could wave a magic wand and make everything perfect for you.


Aims - Apr 05, 2005 6:37:51 am PDT #1357 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

{{{Gud}}}

Joe and I were friends first, but mostly cause he had a girlfriend when we met. For me, the best friend feelings came after the love. And sometimes, I tell him, "I need to bitch at my friend about my husband. Turn off husband mode."