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Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Apr 28, 2005 6:00:17 am PDT #9641 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

there has to be a happy medium between sadistic dodgeball and everyone gets a trophy, right?

stupid extremists on everything.


DXMachina - Apr 28, 2005 6:00:56 am PDT #9642 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

"ABOUT FUCKING TIME. DODGEBALL DELENDA EST."

JZ is dead to me...


Emily - Apr 28, 2005 6:01:04 am PDT #9643 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

My personal favorite moment of the entire show came earlier, though, when Stewart mocked the tee-heeing giggly us-girls ineptitude of the CNN co-anchors at the end of a serious, depressing story in which a spokesflackster had just lied on-air: he flailed, he giggled, he exploded into righteous expletive-laced fury. I would've had his baby right then and there.

Yes! I'd forgotten about that in my irritation with the these-schools-today-head-shake thing, but that was wicked. And I like his sparing use of bleeped obscenity. It nicely adds emphasis to the comedy -- like, "Look at this, isn't this funny? In the way that it drives you fucking insane?"

What's the joke about the "Conflicting theories about the Earth's shape" headline?


Calli - Apr 28, 2005 6:01:56 am PDT #9644 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Well, a lot of schools are eliminating recess.

Oh, lord. I would hate to be the 2nd grade teacher of a recess-deprived bunch of kids. Do they really expect the little blighters to sit calmly at their desks from 8-3, with only a lunch break? Heck, I can't do that and I'm 37.


Jessica - Apr 28, 2005 6:02:28 am PDT #9645 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Well, a lot of schools are eliminating recess

True, but that's a money issue more than a morality issue, isn't it?

In my elementary school, freeze tag was one of those "It's too nice a day for me to give you a structured class today" gym class games. (Dodge ball was the rainy-day equivalent.)


Jessica - Apr 28, 2005 6:03:51 am PDT #9646 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

What's the joke about the "Conflicting theories about the Earth's shape" headline?

Dubya announces the world is flat, the next day's headlines read "Shape of Earth: Views Differ"?


Emily - Apr 28, 2005 6:04:25 am PDT #9647 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Oh, I should point out that I totally agree that groundless praise is an inefficient motivator and ends up undercutting drive and achievement, by the way. Like everything, there's a balance. But, see, since education schools aren't STUPID, they didn't need her to write a book to tell them that.


sarameg - Apr 28, 2005 6:11:28 am PDT #9648 of 10001

In my elemetary school, PE had, on a weekly basis, dodgeball AND square dancing. It was very effective torture for all involved. The PE teacher was amean ass bitch too. She would yell at me for bringing in a note excusing me because I had a piece of glass in my foot and was waiting for surgery to be scheduled.

Bitch. She's still working in the district. Mom says she's mellowed some but is still a bitch who has no business dealing with kids.


JZ - Apr 28, 2005 6:12:53 am PDT #9649 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

cries over losing DX's sooper seekrit internet love

But, really, I don't know what dodgeball was like in its original incarnation, and I'm perfectly happy to give original dodgeball a pass -- but by the mid to late 70s dodgeball was a way for popular kids to fuck with unpopular ones with the teacher's permission.

At my school, it usually played out as such: Round One, the smallest and weakest kids get nailed with balls thrown so hard the kids are sometimes driven to their knees. Round Two: The popular kids make soft little baby tosses at their friends, who frequently jump right into the path of the ball to get tagged out on purpose so they can go stand by their friends and toss the ball across the circle to each other.

An exciting variation was the one where getting nailed was a sign of popularity, so the game started out with all the shiny kids nailing their best friends immediately and then spending the next 15 minutes tossing the ball back and forth while the goats in the middle just stand there invisibly.

And all the time, the teacher looking on.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 28, 2005 6:15:18 am PDT #9650 of 10001
What is even happening?

Some of Sommers earlier work, like the thing about boys, has some merit. But I think she makes the mistake of going to the opposite extreme of whatever stance she's criticizing at the time.

Well, a lot of schools are eliminating recess. And who ever played tag in gym? So there you go.

This is the most ridiculous philosophy. Our kids are getting fatter and more sedentary, and we're treating how many for ADD and ADHD, but let's stop sending them outside to blow off some steam for 20 minutes a day.