Love makes you do the wacky.

Willow ,'Beneath You'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Apr 19, 2005 12:48:59 pm PDT #7149 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I guess I don't care as much about concealment of weapons as I do about who gets access to them.

That is precisely it. If, in a perfect world, you're allowed to carry a gun, I don't need to see it. In an imperfect world, you'll probably hide the fucker anyway.


Nutty - Apr 19, 2005 12:49:51 pm PDT #7150 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Would you be offended to learn he knows fluent Mandarin, can kill you with a plastic knife, has only one testicle and hates battered onions?

Probably not. Can Mandarin, solitary testicles or onions kill me? No.

As for the ability to kill with non-obvious weapons, well, I'd be pretty put off to discover this ability without his saying anything about it; like, if he killed someone else (say, for a good reason), and then turned to me to explain this heretofore unknown ability, I would have a powerful sense of "whoa, I don't know you, stay away from me" going on.

Maybe I'd manage to restrain myself and be politely grateful, but underneath that would be, "What I don't know could hurt me."


Jessica - Apr 19, 2005 12:50:05 pm PDT #7151 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I guess I don't care as much about concealment of weapons as I do about who gets access to them.

Yup. I can think of good and bad reasons for both concealing and displaying weapons. They all depend on who's carrying, and what for.


Lyra Jane - Apr 19, 2005 12:51:17 pm PDT #7152 of 10001
Up with the sun

Jessica, that page demonstrated to me exactly how much French I've lost. I can still read all the basic I go, I went, I will go, I would go, I am going, but then I get to something like Indicatif Passé Antérieur and I don't even remember what that means, let alone what all the "fussy" stuff is.


Cashmere - Apr 19, 2005 12:52:48 pm PDT #7153 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

The thing about people carrying guns for self protection is that some of them believe that just seeing a gun will scare off a prospective attacker. Not always so. And you end up with people who are either not prepared to actually fire the gun (REALLY bad if the gun gets taken away and used against them) or not properly trained to use them. I'd just as soon those people carry mace.

too late to offer my opinion on the French. Which is good because when I went to Paris nobody could understand a fucking word I said. Unless they really could and were just incredibly rude. That's 50/50.


§ ita § - Apr 19, 2005 12:54:27 pm PDT #7154 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ah. I sense I'm not going to get your PoV, Nutty, even academically. Most everyone can kill, in my book. Some more easily than others, but I don't have a line which, when crossed, triggers alerts.

Dying is so easy. Killing just slightly less so.

I'm worried about a) those that want to kill and b) those that don't want to, but just might by mistake. The how (plastic knife, fist, car, gun) doesn't concern me.


Hayden - Apr 19, 2005 12:56:38 pm PDT #7155 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

What I hate is that the very question of access to guns has turned into such a divisive political issue for so many Americans. It seems to me that the Democrats could have found a way to present mandatory background checks in such a way as to reassure the vast majority of gun owners that their access to owning weapons was not being threatened. However, the right has done an amazing job in taking a single, relatively unimportant issue and using it to sway people who no other reason to vote for them.


Dana - Apr 19, 2005 12:57:29 pm PDT #7156 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Um.

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Aims - Apr 19, 2005 12:57:44 pm PDT #7157 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

My favorite thing about gun control was said on the West Wing:

"I don't understand why the Democrats don't all join the NRA."


Katie M - Apr 19, 2005 12:58:09 pm PDT #7158 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Dana: Ha! Wrong, and yet funny.