I couldn't believe it the first twenty times you told us, but it's starting to sink in now.

Riley ,'Lessons'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Stephanie - Apr 19, 2005 12:36:03 pm PDT #7136 of 10001
Trust my rage

Allez is also the imperative form, correct? Because I think that's what you would use if you were saying "GO!"


Lyra Jane - Apr 19, 2005 12:37:16 pm PDT #7137 of 10001
Up with the sun

Susan, I think it would only be vas if the orderer and the orderee were on a first-name basis or the orderee was very inferior in rank (like, parent to child is vas). If they aren't intimates, it would be allez.

Edit: I think Stephanie is also right about allez as an imperative.


Nutty - Apr 19, 2005 12:37:48 pm PDT #7138 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

If you're going to take it somewhere you know guns aren't welcome, I'm thinking you'll conceal illegally.

How rude! Actually, I think that the point of carrying openly is so that people can know, and decide whether the guns are welcome or not. Like, I am sure some bunny out there was carrying his .45 into the Episcopal Church every day; but nobody knew it. When everybody knows it, the Episcopal Church can write up a nice little policy about whether .45s are welcome in the nave or not.

Actually, you know, in a lot of ways it's a politeness issue for me. Carrying a concealed weapon is like leaving a job off your resume. Maybe that lie of omission is for a good reason, and maybe it won't ever affect me except emotionally, but one day when the friend I thought I knew whips out his gun from under his jacket, I will be very offended at that friend not telling me he carries a gun.

(I mean, I will also stay far away from that friend, because I am personally squicked by guns, but my reaction wouldn't be "I'm offended, you guncarryer!" -- it would be, "I'm offended, you liar.")


msbelle - Apr 19, 2005 12:39:16 pm PDT #7139 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

how odd.


§ ita § - Apr 19, 2005 12:39:29 pm PDT #7140 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I will be very offended at that friend not telling me he carries a gun.

Would you be offended to learn he knows fluent Mandarin, can kill you with a plastic knife, has only one testicle and hates battered onions?

I think the Episcopal Church already knows guns exist, and already knows how they feel about them in their facilities.


Jessica - Apr 19, 2005 12:40:02 pm PDT #7141 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

More forms of aller than you could possibly ever need.

va is the familiar tense, so if your two characters don't even speak the same language, you want the formal allez


msbelle - Apr 19, 2005 12:40:26 pm PDT #7142 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

!!!! Now I want a bloomin ONION!!!


Susan W. - Apr 19, 2005 12:41:15 pm PDT #7143 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Susan, I think it would only be vas if the orderer and the orderee were on a first-name basis or the orderee was very inferior in rank (like, parent to child is vas). If they aren't intimates, it would be allez.

The orderee is a camp follower, the orderer a colonel, so a pretty huge difference in rank. But they don't know each other.

ETA--I'm going with "Allez!"


Stephanie - Apr 19, 2005 12:42:15 pm PDT #7144 of 10001
Trust my rage

Carrying a concealed weapon is like leaving a job off your resume.

I guess I only care if someone is carrying a weapon when they pull it out to use it. Until that moment, it doesn't bother me and I'm not sure why it would bother anyone else. It's just sitting in your purse/pocket like pepper spray or a pocket knife. I think the gun only becomes an issue when everyone can see it - then people are uncomfortable.

Of course, people/churches/other institutions certainly have the right to set policies as to whether weapons are allowed.


brenda m - Apr 19, 2005 12:42:33 pm PDT #7145 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Would you be offended to learn he knows fluent Mandarin, can kill you with a plastic knife, has only one testicle and hates battered onions?

With the possible exception of the plastic knife, none of those things have the potential to affect me in quite the way a gun could.

I guess I only care if someone is carrying a weapon when they pull it out to use it.

And if that's likely to happen, I'd appreciate a little advance notice.