a bit more courage in the face of evil, you know?
A bit more courage than what? Than complying with mandatory order?
I have no dog in this race, but he was 12 when the war started.
Walking I get. But power walking? Why not just run for a shorter time?
Angel ,'Time Bomb'
Natter 34: Freak With No Name
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
§ ita § - Apr 19, 2005 8:20:39 am PDT #6969 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
brenda m - Apr 19, 2005 8:20:43 am PDT #6970 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
I don't think you can assume that he was a raging Nazi. *
[Eta, like Betsy I'm more concerned with his recent activities, which are bad enough.]
OTOH, the fact that membership was mandatory doesn't mean that he was in HY against his will, either.
I'd like to know more, and hopefully will be able to find it.
§ ita § - Apr 19, 2005 8:21:29 am PDT #6971 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Doesn't make him a good guy.
Yeah, but it also doesn't make him a Nazi. There's the whole Godwin's law thing to watch out for, after all.
Gudanov - Apr 19, 2005 8:22:19 am PDT #6972 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping
OTOH, the fact that membership was mandatory doesn't mean that he was in HY against his will, either.
But at his age, in that atmosphere, I don't think you can draw any conclusions from that.
Trudy Booth - Apr 19, 2005 8:22:35 am PDT #6973 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Ratzinger was in the Hitler Youth. For real.
When you're surrounded by mad dogs, not smelling like a rabbit is not stupid.
Sure, but when you have a hundred some-odd "in no way EVER Nazis" candidates mebbe go with one of them?
Steph L. - Apr 19, 2005 8:22:41 am PDT #6974 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
Doesn't make him a good guy.
Yeah, but it does make him not a Nazi.
I rescind my Nazi labelling of him, and forthwith shall refer to him as a Scary-Ass Bigoted Zealot.
Jesse - Apr 19, 2005 8:22:54 am PDT #6975 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
So, okay. He went along with the crowd with the whole Hitler Youth thing. That was a long time ago. But what he's done recently is even scarier. The dude was, until today, head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which was formerly known as the Inquisition.
This is why there are 'better' things to call him than "Nazi." It's too kneejerk, true or not.
Gudanov - Apr 19, 2005 8:23:32 am PDT #6976 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping
I rescind my Nazi labelling of him, and forthwith shall refer to him as a Scary-Ass Bigoted Zealot.
That's more fair.
brenda m - Apr 19, 2005 8:23:55 am PDT #6977 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
But at his age, in that atmosphere, I don't think you can draw any conclusions from that.
Well, that's kind of what I'm saying. You can't pillory him for the mere fact of belonging. But at the same time, you can't hand-wave that it was only for cover, either. "It was mandatory," might be a defense, and a real one. Or it might be beside the fact. We don't (yet) know.
Jesse - Apr 19, 2005 8:24:40 am PDT #6978 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
It's like if Cheney got elected president, huh?