OTOH, the fact that membership was mandatory doesn't mean that he was in HY against his will, either.
But at his age, in that atmosphere, I don't think you can draw any conclusions from that.
Pretty cool except for the part where I was really terrified and now my knees are all dizzy.
Willow ,'Never Leave Me'
Natter 34: Freak With No Name
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Gudanov - Apr 19, 2005 8:22:19 am PDT #6972 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping
Trudy Booth - Apr 19, 2005 8:22:35 am PDT #6973 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Ratzinger was in the Hitler Youth. For real.
When you're surrounded by mad dogs, not smelling like a rabbit is not stupid.
Sure, but when you have a hundred some-odd "in no way EVER Nazis" candidates mebbe go with one of them?
Steph L. - Apr 19, 2005 8:22:41 am PDT #6974 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
Doesn't make him a good guy.
Yeah, but it does make him not a Nazi.
I rescind my Nazi labelling of him, and forthwith shall refer to him as a Scary-Ass Bigoted Zealot.
Jesse - Apr 19, 2005 8:22:54 am PDT #6975 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
So, okay. He went along with the crowd with the whole Hitler Youth thing. That was a long time ago. But what he's done recently is even scarier. The dude was, until today, head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which was formerly known as the Inquisition.
This is why there are 'better' things to call him than "Nazi." It's too kneejerk, true or not.
Gudanov - Apr 19, 2005 8:23:32 am PDT #6976 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping
I rescind my Nazi labelling of him, and forthwith shall refer to him as a Scary-Ass Bigoted Zealot.
That's more fair.
brenda m - Apr 19, 2005 8:23:55 am PDT #6977 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
But at his age, in that atmosphere, I don't think you can draw any conclusions from that.
Well, that's kind of what I'm saying. You can't pillory him for the mere fact of belonging. But at the same time, you can't hand-wave that it was only for cover, either. "It was mandatory," might be a defense, and a real one. Or it might be beside the fact. We don't (yet) know.
Jesse - Apr 19, 2005 8:24:40 am PDT #6978 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
It's like if Cheney got elected president, huh?
Steph L. - Apr 19, 2005 8:24:54 am PDT #6979 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
I rescind my Nazi labelling of him, and forthwith shall refer to him as a Scary-Ass Bigoted Zealot.
That's more fair.
Apparently, some of his nicknames include: “the enforcer”, “the panzer cardinal” and “God’s rottweiler.”
Just....neat.
Jessica - Apr 19, 2005 8:28:17 am PDT #6980 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
It's like if Cheney got elected president, huh?
never stops screaming
Emily - Apr 19, 2005 8:28:48 am PDT #6981 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
So, knowing very little about cardinals except there's that charismatic one from Africa who typically wears black over purple, rather than red over white, and that there's Cardinal Law who screwed the pooch on the whole sex abuse scandal thing, and there's the new Boston Archbishop, who's, what, a Dominican? Apparently I know more than I thought. Let me start over. So, am I to take it that, from a progressive, inclusive, not-alienating-more-Catholics-let-alone-everybody-else perspective, they could hardly have chosen worse than Ratzinger?
ETA: Oh, actually I think the new Archbishop is not a cardinal at all. Still, I'm pleased that I remember stuff about him, so I'm leaving it in.