You got fired, and you still hang around here like a big loser. Why can't he?

Cordelia ,'Chosen'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Betsy HP - Apr 19, 2005 8:08:52 am PDT #6956 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Ratzinger is even more conservative than John Paul. And his out-of-the-blue denunciations of the Beatles in 1996 - a quarter century after they split up - and insistence that the rock band AC/DC's name meant "anti-Christ, death to Christ" cemented the impression among many young Catholics that Ratzinger was out-of-touch.


Connie Neil - Apr 19, 2005 8:09:09 am PDT #6957 of 10001
brillig

Ratzinger was in the Hitler Youth. For real.

When you're surrounded by mad dogs, not smelling like a rabbit is not stupid.


bon bon - Apr 19, 2005 8:09:21 am PDT #6958 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't calling him a Nazi a little unfair? He was just in the army; he wasn't a member of the Nazi party. eta: (I think)

I assume that most Germans of a certain age can be described as being on the German side of the war. It doesn't mean he still subscribes to it.

I heard someone on BBC say that his position as defender of the orthodoxy makes him seem more orthodox than he may be personally.


Aims - Apr 19, 2005 8:09:31 am PDT #6959 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

AC/DC's name meant "anti-Christ, death to Christ

Oh gimme a break. It means, "After Christ, Devil Comes." Jeebus.


DXMachina - Apr 19, 2005 8:10:15 am PDT #6960 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

John Garfield was the victim of an assassination attempt, too. Sorry, that one succeeded, right?

James Garfield. John was an actor in the forties. Someone took some shots at Truman, too.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't calling him a Nazi a little unfair? He was just in the army; he wasn't a member of the Nazi party. eta: (I think)

Also, he was only eighteen when the war ended. The Germans had a lot of kids in the army near the end.

eta: And what everyone else said about the Hitler Youth. He had no choice.


Betsy HP - Apr 19, 2005 8:10:40 am PDT #6961 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

[link]

The Cardinal warned that heavy metal music was particularly offensive, and branded rock n' roll an "instrument of the Devil" which young people should avoid listening to "for fear of endangering their souls (London Times)." He singled out musical groups, including Pink Floyd, Queen, Led Zeppelin, the Beatles, the Eagles and, of course, the Rolling Stones. He also called on members of heavy metal bands to "purify themselves."

In 1996. In 1996, he's warning us against Queen. The horse isn't just out the barn door, it's gone to the knacker's and is currently gluing the back of an envelope in Peoria.


§ ita § - Apr 19, 2005 8:11:10 am PDT #6962 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Quick googling implies that membership in Hitler Youth was mandatory at the time.


tommyrot - Apr 19, 2005 8:11:46 am PDT #6963 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I assume that most Germans of a certain age can be described as being on the German side of the war.

Well, I'm taking "Nazi" to mean a member of the Nazi party. Or is the term generally used to describe all Germans who supported the war? (not being sarcastic)


bon bon - Apr 19, 2005 8:13:31 am PDT #6964 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Well, I'm taking "Nazi" to mean a member of the Nazi party. Or is the term generally used to describe all Germans who supported the war? (not being sarcastic)

Actually, I'm not disagreeing with you here, just hedging my bets as to exactly what he did that is offensive.


Daisy Jane - Apr 19, 2005 8:17:46 am PDT #6965 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I'm not sure that any of that makes him a bad person, but you'd like to think that someone who is going to be a spiritual leader, arbiter of morality, & so on etc. would have a bit more courage in the face of evil, you know?