I'm sorry. You were going to ask me to choose, right? Did you want to finish?

Zoe ,'War Stories'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Wolfram - Apr 06, 2005 7:54:59 am PDT #3707 of 10001
Visilurking

It just seems like that if they were litigating something he felt they had an agreement on, he had an incentive to litigate it.

No, the landlord's attorney told my client they wanted to terminate the lease. My client told him there was no lease. Landlord's attorney had court date posted on door of business which new owners forwarded to my client. My client figured, there's no reason to go to fight against a non-existent lease termination.

It would be like me filing an eviction action against bon bon for failing to pay rent on my basement. Since bon bon's never been to my house, much less rented my basement, why should she show up to court to defend herself against the action? Does that prove that until April 6, 2005 she was a tenant of mine?


Tom Scola - Apr 06, 2005 7:57:39 am PDT #3708 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

You might want to look around for flea markets in your area, Gud.


Gudanov - Apr 06, 2005 7:59:45 am PDT #3709 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

You might want to look around for flea markets in your area

That's a good idea.


Lyra Jane - Apr 06, 2005 8:02:15 am PDT #3710 of 10001
Up with the sun

Thanks, Wolfram.

It really does boil down to "he's a wanker," doesn't it?


DXMachina - Apr 06, 2005 8:05:08 am PDT #3711 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Don't judges have the right to kick plaintiffs in the butt for pulling crap like that?

Only in Australia. With the Boot.


tommyrot - Apr 06, 2005 8:05:47 am PDT #3712 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

You might want to look around for flea markets in your area, Gud.

Some stores specialize in selling used electronics, including parts like switches.


bon bon - Apr 06, 2005 8:09:11 am PDT #3713 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I see what you're saying, Wolfram, and it makes sense on equitable grounds. But I suspect the case law on either the property law issues or the res judicata issues will be rather inequitable.

I mean, taking the long view, I can see a rule like: regardless of what you believe the merits of an action to be, if you don't fight it and it doesn't go your way you takes your chances. It all seems to turn on your client's view that there's no lease to fight. I don't think you can adopt the rule that if your client thinks there's no issue, but the court thinks there is an issue, that ruling shouldn't be given binding effect.

I don't have a stake in this, I just think you should be careful.


Wolfram - Apr 06, 2005 8:19:51 am PDT #3714 of 10001
Visilurking

Yeah, that's what it really boils down to. Just because he had opportunity to fight, does that mean he had to fight? How much does the potential outcome matter?

Maybe Stephanie's notes will point me in the right direction. This issue/claim preclusion stuff is almost as bad as the rule against perpetuities.

Sorry to burden the board with boring law stuff.


-t - Apr 06, 2005 8:22:27 am PDT #3715 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Sorry to burden the board with boring law stuff.

I find this stuff fascinating, as long as I don't have to pass a test on it or have it directly affect me.


bon bon - Apr 06, 2005 8:22:48 am PDT #3716 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

This issue/claim preclusion stuff is almost as bad as the rule against perpetuities.

Ha! I'm actually working on conflict of laws cases and the procedural/substantive distinction. MAN there was a lot of fucking awful doctrines to learn and then forget in law school. I think conflict of laws was my least favorite thing ever.