So that's my dream. That and some stuff about cigars and a tunnel.

Faith ,'Get It Done'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Mar 31, 2005 6:54:23 am PST #1804 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Here is an interesting exchange from a conservative talk show and a doctor:

Heh.

ION, does anyone have the latest issue of Scientific American? This is supposedly an editorial from the April issue - it's damn sarcastic.

In retrospect, this magazine’s coverage of socalled evolution has been hideously one-sided. For decades, we published articles in every issue that endorsed the ideas of Charles Darwin and his cronies. True, the theory of common descent through natural selection has been called the unifying concept for all of biology and one of the greatest scientific ideas of all time, but that was no excuse to be fanatics about it.

Where were the answering articles presenting the powerful case for scientific creationism? Why were we so unwilling to suggest that dinosaurs lived 6,000 years ago or that a cataclysmic flood carved the Grand Canyon? Blame the scientists. They dazzled us with their fancy fossils, their radiocarbon dating and their tens of thousands of peer-reviewed journal articles. As editors, we had no business being persuaded by mountains of evidence.

I can't get to it from the SA website - apparantly it's print only. Or it could be a fake.

eta - xpost:

Scientific American put their own twist on this for their April 1st issue -- the editorial page was a tongue-in-cheek apology to the right wing, promising to stop favoring things like peer-reviewed scientific studies and to start giving more "fair and balanced" coverage of the issues. Cracked me up.


Aims - Mar 31, 2005 6:54:42 am PST #1805 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

t stops going to the movies forever


Jessica - Mar 31, 2005 6:57:29 am PST #1806 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I can't get to it from the SA website - apparantly it's print only. Or it could be a fake.

No, that's what they printed. It was so perfectly pitched.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 31, 2005 6:57:34 am PST #1807 of 10001
What is even happening?

Aims, that pretty much happened when Emma was born (or depending on how badly your bladder was smooshed, a few months before).


brenda m - Mar 31, 2005 7:03:07 am PST #1808 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Gud, thanks for posting that link. Thank goodness someone involved is as aghast at the level of discussion as most of us are.


bon bon - Mar 31, 2005 7:04:02 am PST #1809 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I don't think the media is necessarily biased toward the Schindlers and their supporters, but their claims were given too much uncritical attention. For example, their consistent pleas for Michael Schiavo to let their daughter live, when the decision had been made by the court acting as Terri's advocate, and he had no power to change it.

And, for all the Schindlers' vaunted love for their daughter and desperate desire for her to live on, I think the things that they have said about Michael Schiavo are disgraceful and immoral. I can't see how these means justify that particular end. I can't have respect for them for calling someone who clearly loved and took care of their daughter a greedy abuser and murderer.


Aims - Mar 31, 2005 7:05:21 am PST #1810 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Aims, that pretty much happened when Emma was born

t thinks back

Last movie I saw at the theater was The Incredibles.

Dammit.


Aims - Mar 31, 2005 7:06:33 am PST #1811 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I also don't understand the Schindler's attorney asking why Michael Schaivo didn't just "walk away" years ago. That poor man. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.


Lyra Jane - Mar 31, 2005 7:09:06 am PST #1812 of 10001
Up with the sun

for all the Schindlers' vaunted love for their daughter and desperate desire for her to live on, I think the things that they have said about Michael Schiavo are disgraceful and immoral.

Yes. That was my biggest problem with their conduct. For the rest of his life, a fair chunk of the people Michael Schiavo comes into contact with will believe (or half-believe) he beat his wife into a coma. I don't see how they can justify saying that, or allowing it to be said.

And thanks for the link, Gud.


brenda m - Mar 31, 2005 7:10:16 am PST #1813 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I don't think the media is necessarily biased toward the Schindlers and their supporters, but their claims were given too much uncritical attention.

That's an important point, because I think what's so insidious about this is that as long as they don't specifically advocate one side or the other, for many people that adds up to "objectivity." Honestly, more-or-less openly partisan coverage a la Fox News bothers me less than the CNN-style coverage that is misleading through laziness or cowardice about exercising judgment.