Aims, that pretty much happened when Emma was born (or depending on how badly your bladder was smooshed, a few months before).

Gud, thanks for posting that link. Thank goodness someone involved is as aghast at the level of discussion as most of us are.

I don't think the media is necessarily biased toward the Schindlers and their supporters, but their claims were given too much uncritical attention. For example, their consistent pleas for Michael Schiavo to let their daughter live, when the decision had been made by the court acting as Terri's advocate, and he had no power to change it.

And, for all the Schindlers' vaunted love for their daughter and desperate desire for her to live on, I think the things that they have said about Michael Schiavo are disgraceful and immoral. I can't see how these means justify that particular end. I can't have respect for them for calling someone who clearly loved and took care of their daughter a greedy abuser and murderer.

Aims, that pretty much happened when Emma was born

t thinks back

Last movie I saw at the theater was The Incredibles.

Dammit.

I also don't understand the Schindler's attorney asking why Michael Schaivo didn't just "walk away" years ago. That poor man. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

for all the Schindlers' vaunted love for their daughter and desperate desire for her to live on, I think the things that they have said about Michael Schiavo are disgraceful and immoral.

Yes. That was my biggest problem with their conduct. For the rest of his life, a fair chunk of the people Michael Schiavo comes into contact with will believe (or half-believe) he beat his wife into a coma. I don't see how they can justify saying that, or allowing it to be said.

And thanks for the link, Gud.

I don't think the media is necessarily biased toward the Schindlers and their supporters, but their claims were given too much uncritical attention.

That's an important point, because I think what's so insidious about this is that as long as they don't specifically advocate one side or the other, for many people that adds up to "objectivity." Honestly, more-or-less openly partisan coverage a la Fox News bothers me less than the CNN-style coverage that is misleading through laziness or cowardice about exercising judgment.

OK, I like kids.

However, when a parent is rough-housing with their 10ish year old in their office, repeatedly admonishing them to shush while keeping rough-housing?

I don't like them so much. Or their parent.

I've had to pinch hit babysit for friends at work when something unavoidable came up. I do my DAMNDEST to make sure no one is disturbed by that kid.

But then, the people currently in question are sort of loud mouthed and immature, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

And while I'm feeling bitchy,

her parents' spokesperson was just on my radio talking about being denied access to Terri as she died.

Gee, isn't that similar to what happened to another relative of a hospice patient there? Oh wait, no, they weren't denied access. Having to navigate the protestors and security that was necessitated by the protestors caused that.

I'm not feeling at all charitable.

When I was there in the 80s, British newspapers were incredibly biased. But predictably so. They weren't really pretending to be fair or balanced, so you knew up front. The reporting that I remember the clearest was the day after the first black MP was voted into parliament. On the Tory papers, a large picture of her powdering her nose was above the fold. On the Labour it was all about celebration of the brave new world that was sure to follow.

Coverage of union disputes, South Africa, etc, was similarly split. You knew to read both to get a hope of the news, and one if you wanted to be comfy in your little bubble.

I wonder if it's evened out any.

But predictably so. They weren't really pretending to be fair or balanced, so you knew up front.

That was true of papers in the Czech Republic in the 1990s as well.