Angel: Just admit it: you think you're gonna ride in, save the day, and sweep Buffy off her--Spike: Like you're not thinking the same thing. Angel: I'm already seeing somebody. Spike: What, dog girl?

'The Girl in Question'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


bon bon - Mar 30, 2005 8:17:52 am PST #1541 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Don't they have to reinsert the tube if legal action is ongoing (though they haven't done so yet)?

I'm not a civil procedure maven or anything, but what the parents attempted in the federal court was to get an injunction (temporary restraining order) for the tube to be reinserted. I *think* granting a TRO is the only circumstance under which it would be re-inserted during litigation.

But in order to get a TRO, you have to demonstrate, among other things, a substantial likelihood of success on the merits, which the parents were not able to do, and probably still couldn't do.


aurelia - Mar 30, 2005 8:18:14 am PST #1542 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Kathy Astrom is the coolest.

That is all.


Tom Scola - Mar 30, 2005 8:21:03 am PST #1543 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

ita, I don't understand what you're arguing here. Yes, Weevil knew that the Neptune player who placed a large bet against his team was probably fixing the game, but why would he have any sort of motivation to tell Veronica?


§ ita § - Mar 30, 2005 8:25:17 am PST #1544 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My initial question was "Surely he knew who was rigging bets?" Tom, and I wasn't arguing against you on that -- what you said that I disagreed with was him not losing out if the game wasn't rigged. I'm still convinced that he set the line, and that he was complicit with the rigging, and that's where he was making his money.


brenda m - Mar 30, 2005 8:28:17 am PST #1545 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

So, if I understand it correctly, what T.S.'s parents are now asking is for the federal courts to determine that the state courts wrongly interpreted state law?


Trudy Booth - Mar 30, 2005 8:28:20 am PST #1546 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

t tacklehugs Megan


Tom Scola - Mar 30, 2005 8:36:55 am PST #1547 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

It's certainly possible that Weevil was fixing the game, but I tend to think that if he was, he would have had a better plan, like braeking Wallace's kneecaps right before the game.


Megan E. - Mar 30, 2005 8:38:40 am PST #1548 of 10001

Ooof! =) Nice to see you Trudes! I should be working but I don't wanna.


-t - Mar 30, 2005 8:38:56 am PST #1549 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The smart way for Weevil to set the odds is to go entirely by the money - as long as he has equal bets on both sides, he doesn't care who wins as long as no one welshes (or is that welches?). What's important isn't who has the better chance of winning, but how lopsided the bets are going (ie, what the betters' perception of the odds is). Good luck to him to get his money with the game not thrown, though.


§ ita § - Mar 30, 2005 8:39:08 am PST #1550 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not saying he was. Just that he wasn't as innocent as he was acting. I'm not sure he ever said he didn't know who was to blame, but the vibe I got off the story was more like he was just standing there, as opposed to majorly involved in a fix -- I mean, no point rigging the game if bets aren't being laid.