Prepare to uncouple -- uncouple.

Oz ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 30, 2005 8:05:34 am PST #1535 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Plus the penguin is wearing sunglasses.

So we need to call you tommyrot tomorrow then, eh?


§ ita § - Mar 30, 2005 8:10:13 am PST #1536 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Didn't Veronica suspect Weevil in the first place because the odds/line/betting structure didn't make sense unless the game turned out one specific way? If that's not true, why did she go to him?

I may be vague on some of the details, because it's been a couple weeks since I saw it, but I thought it was a key point of her investigation.


Tom Scola - Mar 30, 2005 8:14:33 am PST #1537 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

There were a lot of people with potential motives in the episode. The odds didn't make sense unless the game was fixed, but Weevil didn't fix the game, and he didn't throw off the odds.

Besides, if Weevil WERE the one who was fixing the game, he would have come up with a better plan than stealing a mascott and/or relying on a benchwarmer to throw the game.


Trudy Booth - Mar 30, 2005 8:14:41 am PST #1538 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Tell me a Buffista got laid while I was away.

How long were you away, I sorta just got back myself.

The answer, however, is probably "YES! So very very VERY laid."


Megan E. - Mar 30, 2005 8:17:19 am PST #1539 of 10001

*waves at Trudy*

Huh-woe.

Vives to Emmett on the nose resetting. I'm glad to be able to return all the nose-ma I got 2 years ago.


§ ita § - Mar 30, 2005 8:17:34 am PST #1540 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wasn't saying that Weevil had anything to do with fixing the game -- just that he must have known it was fixed to set the odds (who else sets his line?), and that he couldn't know how it was fixed without knowing by whom. The odds were off before the note, weren't they?


bon bon - Mar 30, 2005 8:17:52 am PST #1541 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Don't they have to reinsert the tube if legal action is ongoing (though they haven't done so yet)?

I'm not a civil procedure maven or anything, but what the parents attempted in the federal court was to get an injunction (temporary restraining order) for the tube to be reinserted. I *think* granting a TRO is the only circumstance under which it would be re-inserted during litigation.

But in order to get a TRO, you have to demonstrate, among other things, a substantial likelihood of success on the merits, which the parents were not able to do, and probably still couldn't do.


aurelia - Mar 30, 2005 8:18:14 am PST #1542 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Kathy Astrom is the coolest.

That is all.


Tom Scola - Mar 30, 2005 8:21:03 am PST #1543 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

ita, I don't understand what you're arguing here. Yes, Weevil knew that the Neptune player who placed a large bet against his team was probably fixing the game, but why would he have any sort of motivation to tell Veronica?


§ ita § - Mar 30, 2005 8:25:17 am PST #1544 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My initial question was "Surely he knew who was rigging bets?" Tom, and I wasn't arguing against you on that -- what you said that I disagreed with was him not losing out if the game wasn't rigged. I'm still convinced that he set the line, and that he was complicit with the rigging, and that's where he was making his money.