Okay, um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm angry, and I'm armed, so if you two have something that you need to work out --

Mal ,'War Stories'


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Spidra Webster - Jan 02, 2006 7:46:36 pm PST #9485 of 10002
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

Right. I don't F&G was meant to be broad. In fact, it's so damned great *because* it feels realistic. It has humor and pain and feels very much like what going to high school in the early '80s felt like. I just wanted to see if I could get you to elaborate on what you felt wasn't fully-realized in 40. Not because I'm trying to argue with you but because I'm genuinely interested in the details of your opinion.

I only saw one ep of Undeclared and didn't like it as well as F&G but I think I'll be returning to it after how much I dug 40.


Hayden - Jan 02, 2006 7:59:00 pm PST #9486 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I just wanted to see if I could get you to elaborate on what you felt wasn't fully-realized in 40

I gotcha. I think we're using the same term differently. I'm comparing the movie with the tv show on my own internal (and therefore perfect, natch) scale of realization, not the internal logic of each. I don't know what would have made 40YOV better, but it wasn't anywhere as close to perfect as F&G.

On other fronts, I caught Rollergirls on cable tonight, which is a surprisingly affecting documentary tv show about the TX Rollergirls here in Austin.


Polter-Cow - Jan 02, 2006 7:59:53 pm PST #9487 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'm almost through Undeclared, and I've really enjoyed it.


Volans - Jan 02, 2006 8:04:52 pm PST #9488 of 10002
move out and draw fire

Got Batman Begins for Christmas, watched it last night. Random thoughts:

- Liam Neeson's ears: still pointy.

- Dude! That was Gary Oldman !!!?!? I never even came close to recognizing him.

- Cillian Murphy: still awesome.

- Some really good moments, but a little too weighted down with being a Movie.

- Nice CGI. And nice that with CGI they could open Gotham up and get away from the claustrophoic, enclosed, soundstagy feeling of the other Batman movies.

- The citizens of The Narrows closing in on Batman like a pack of zombies was great imagery on its own, and really fun as a meta-conversation with the scene in Spiderman 2 where the citizens of NYC carry Peter Parker, Christ-like, to safety. And with that contrast in mind, the El battles in both were fun to contrast also.

A non-Batman question: a book I'm reading includes this phrase: "Now largely forgotten, during the 1920s Clara Bow had been one of Hollywood's biggest sex symbols." I didn't think the It Girl was forgotten at all - you guys?


Spidra Webster - Jan 02, 2006 8:07:26 pm PST #9489 of 10002
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

I didn't think the It Girl was forgotten at all - you guys?

Not by people who are buffs of that era, but by the general public? Yes. Most Americans couldn't tell you who she was. But, then again, a shameful percentage of Americans can't even tell you which hemisphere they live in.


DavidS - Jan 02, 2006 8:09:17 pm PST #9490 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I didn't think the It Girl was forgotten at all - you guys?

Not by me, but then I've got a Silent Movies star bookmarked. And JZ is a total silent movie whore. (We went to a bar once because they were showing a Lillian Gish movie.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 02, 2006 8:17:46 pm PST #9491 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

There are, of course, the numerous takes during LotR in which Viggo was injured. All of which seemed to be the takes that PJ liked best, and made it in to the final cut.

If I were an actor and got injured during various takes, I'd prefer that those be the ones making the final cut so the pain wasn't all for nothing.


DavidS - Jan 02, 2006 8:21:09 pm PST #9492 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'd prefer that those be the ones making the final cut so the pain wasn't all for nothing.

Heh. One of the deleted scenes in Punch Drunk Love is a commercial that Philip Seymour Hoffman's sleezy mattress king is shooting. Hoffman is filmed on top of a building dropping down onto a huge stack of mattresses - and then he goes sproing up and off the stack and falls down to the ground about 12 feet on his back where he yelped:

"Fuck that hurt! Did you get it on camera?"


Sean K - Jan 02, 2006 8:24:09 pm PST #9493 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I didn't think the It Girl was forgotten at all - you guys?

Forget those eyes? I don't think so.


Sean K - Jan 02, 2006 8:30:39 pm PST #9494 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

There's an outtake in the supplementary material of The Frighteners where Michael J. Fox is running through the woods, takes a bad tumble out of frame and badly injures his foot. You can hear him say "Ow, fuck." off camera.