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Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Nutty - Jan 02, 2006 6:05:59 pm PST #9480 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I just got home from seeing Munich. And on a totally shallow level, Eric Bana must have legs that are about three inches long, because he's got the longest torso in the galaxy. I swear, you could have landed planes on his back muscles.

I totally didn't recognize Ciaran Hinds, the whole movie long (like, I knew I knew him, but had no idea from where) till I saw his name in the credits. Daniel Craig, I recognized, but didn't know he could pull off an Afrikaner accent till he did it.

It's a fairly OTT movie, earnest and discursive, and I think some of the flashbacks were mistakes. But, not a bad movie; and considering it's Steven Spielberg, the OTT did not make me homicidal, so that is progress.


Spidra Webster - Jan 02, 2006 6:20:09 pm PST #9481 of 10002
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

The 40-Year-Old Virgin isn't quite a well-realized as that show, but not much is.

Can you explain this statement, Corwood? I loved 40-Year-Old Virgin and I loved F&G yet I think they're different things, having different aims. So I wouldn't compare them except for how well they each achieved their different objectives.


Hayden - Jan 02, 2006 6:47:47 pm PST #9482 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Not too much to explain, Spi. Both were made by some of the same people, so it hardly seems to me too outlandish to contrast them, as you yourself have done.


Spidra Webster - Jan 02, 2006 6:52:48 pm PST #9483 of 10002
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

I was just trying to get a handle on how you thought 40 could have been better-realized. For the style of approach that it had (it's much broader comedy than F&G), I thought the characters were well-drawn.


Hayden - Jan 02, 2006 7:35:37 pm PST #9484 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Well, F&G certainly could have been more broadly drawn if the writers had wanted to go that way, but it wasn't, which is what I suspect most of us who loved it thought special about it. Undeclared, however, was pretty broad at times, and seems closer in spirit to 40YOV. Both were good when good, but uneven overall, especially compared to F&G. YMMV.


Spidra Webster - Jan 02, 2006 7:46:36 pm PST #9485 of 10002
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

Right. I don't F&G was meant to be broad. In fact, it's so damned great *because* it feels realistic. It has humor and pain and feels very much like what going to high school in the early '80s felt like. I just wanted to see if I could get you to elaborate on what you felt wasn't fully-realized in 40. Not because I'm trying to argue with you but because I'm genuinely interested in the details of your opinion.

I only saw one ep of Undeclared and didn't like it as well as F&G but I think I'll be returning to it after how much I dug 40.


Hayden - Jan 02, 2006 7:59:00 pm PST #9486 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I just wanted to see if I could get you to elaborate on what you felt wasn't fully-realized in 40

I gotcha. I think we're using the same term differently. I'm comparing the movie with the tv show on my own internal (and therefore perfect, natch) scale of realization, not the internal logic of each. I don't know what would have made 40YOV better, but it wasn't anywhere as close to perfect as F&G.

On other fronts, I caught Rollergirls on cable tonight, which is a surprisingly affecting documentary tv show about the TX Rollergirls here in Austin.


Polter-Cow - Jan 02, 2006 7:59:53 pm PST #9487 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'm almost through Undeclared, and I've really enjoyed it.


Volans - Jan 02, 2006 8:04:52 pm PST #9488 of 10002
move out and draw fire

Got Batman Begins for Christmas, watched it last night. Random thoughts:

- Liam Neeson's ears: still pointy.

- Dude! That was Gary Oldman !!!?!? I never even came close to recognizing him.

- Cillian Murphy: still awesome.

- Some really good moments, but a little too weighted down with being a Movie.

- Nice CGI. And nice that with CGI they could open Gotham up and get away from the claustrophoic, enclosed, soundstagy feeling of the other Batman movies.

- The citizens of The Narrows closing in on Batman like a pack of zombies was great imagery on its own, and really fun as a meta-conversation with the scene in Spiderman 2 where the citizens of NYC carry Peter Parker, Christ-like, to safety. And with that contrast in mind, the El battles in both were fun to contrast also.

A non-Batman question: a book I'm reading includes this phrase: "Now largely forgotten, during the 1920s Clara Bow had been one of Hollywood's biggest sex symbols." I didn't think the It Girl was forgotten at all - you guys?


Spidra Webster - Jan 02, 2006 8:07:26 pm PST #9489 of 10002
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

I didn't think the It Girl was forgotten at all - you guys?

Not by people who are buffs of that era, but by the general public? Yes. Most Americans couldn't tell you who she was. But, then again, a shameful percentage of Americans can't even tell you which hemisphere they live in.