I'm not on the ship. I'm in the ship. I am the ship.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Jesse - Dec 19, 2005 9:59:57 am PST #9265 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Here's a whole transcription: [link]


Spidra Webster - Dec 19, 2005 10:20:16 am PST #9266 of 10002
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

I'm feeling the Jesse-love.


beekaytee - Dec 19, 2005 1:12:28 pm PST #9267 of 10002
Compassionately intolerant

Somehow being the only person in the theater appalled or saddened by the violence or tragedy onscreen is worse than being the only person in the theater who is laughing at the joke.

This. Individual humans = mostly loveable. Crowd behavior = frequently unnerving.

This was completely my experience of Crash in the theatre. So much so, that I left halfway through and havn't yet rented the dvd.


Theodosia - Dec 19, 2005 2:17:42 pm PST #9268 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Sometimes people laugh because they can't bring themselves to acknowledge how tragic a situation it really is -- it's distancing, especially in a group. (I'm happy to say that the friends I was with were gasping with horror and dismay at the same scene, because at the same time that it's all Grand!Passion, the betrayal that it is also gets shown.)


Polter-Cow - Dec 19, 2005 3:46:40 pm PST #9269 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

And it seemed to me like such a fantastic, brutal, heart-wrenching moment -- and then practically the entire theater burst into cheerful, boisterous laughter. Not embarrassed, shocked, uncomfortable laughter, but the art-house movie equivalent of Fuck yeah! It was an utter Bizarro World moment.

This happened both in my theater and in the theater my friend saw it in. And I was laughing myself initially until I realized I wasn't supposed to be finding it funny. Something about the way the scene was played, the fact that it was an "Oops!" moment just struck that comic nerve. I think we were primed for that reaction since we also found the immediate rush to make out surprisingly funny. Everything seemed to be moving so much faster than we anticipated. It's possible it was just one of those releases of tension that you need in a movie like that, and it just happened to occur at an inappropriate time. Because the scene's clearly not meant to be funny at all.


JZ - Dec 19, 2005 4:01:10 pm PST #9270 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I understand all about the tension-releasing laugh and the oh-shit-that-wasn't-funny nervous laugh, but the thing that creeped me out was that this laughter was cheerful and unapologetic. I've heard people go ha ha oops, but this wasn't that. It was creepily raucous and unembarrassed, like a wacky-marital-discord laugh at the climax of a Preston Sturges film.

By the last twenty minutes, though, practically the entire theater was snurfling and choking back sobs, so I guess I can't be too creeped out and grudge-holding. I bet the theater goes through double its usual supplies of napkins, paper towels and toilet paper during the Brokeback run.


sumi - Dec 20, 2005 4:58:05 am PST #9271 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

There's an Alatriste Trailer here. . . it has no sound, but looks good.


tiggy - Dec 20, 2005 10:00:00 am PST #9272 of 10002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

was Crash discussed in here? if so, can someone Nilly it for me?


Maysa - Dec 20, 2005 10:02:52 am PST #9273 of 10002

I'm trying not to be spoiled for Brokeback Mountain, but I've been glancing through your posts and I just read an article in the NY Times about real-life gay cowboys in which they mentioned that there are two brutal murders in the films. Now, I really, really want to see it - but I have a very hard time with depictions of realistic violence in movies. My question is - how graphic and/or upsetting are these scenes?


Lee - Dec 20, 2005 10:06:40 am PST #9274 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Maysa, I have a hard time with death in general (just ask anyone who saw Serenity with me) and with blood, and I was okay. the scenes were upsetting, and there was some blood, but it was only shown very briefly rather than graphically. The first one was described in some detail though, so that might be an issue. It wasn't for me, but I can see it being so for others.