Very convincing. Makes me completely want to put myself under government control. Please take me to where you can make me unconscious and naked.

Riley ,'Help'


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Maysa - Dec 06, 2005 12:30:57 pm PST #8970 of 10002

I remember it being a lot of fun -- kind of a teen pop Pulp Fiction. It's got a great soundtrack.

That sounds okay, maybe I'll give it a try tonight (I hate sending things back without watching them). It's so hard with netflix sometimes, because what you're in the mood for on Friday, won't be what you want to see on Tuesday.


Hayden - Dec 06, 2005 12:42:30 pm PST #8971 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Y'know, I just re-read 3 Hammett novels about two weeks ago, including The Maltese Falcon. I'd read 'em before seeing Miller's Crossing, back in the early 90s, and when I hit on "what's the rumpus?" in The Maltese Falcon, I almost jumped out of my bed and began machine gunning would-be assassins to the tune of Danny Boy - that's how surprised I was.


Strega - Dec 06, 2005 2:42:44 pm PST #8972 of 10002

So they're plagiarizing an emotional throughline, but not in a bad way?

I still think we're defining most of the key words differently. I don't think Miller's Crossing is an homage, for that matter, which is probably another example of the problem.

As I said, the Coens almost always play off (or rip off, if you prefer) old movies and books and, well, epic poems. They did give Homer a credit, but I think the only other time they mentioned specific sources within a movie was when they said Fargo was based on a true story. Which was a lie. I think explicitly identifying everything they use would make their movies significantly less fun. For me, anyway.


DavidS - Dec 06, 2005 2:55:27 pm PST #8973 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

So they're plagiarizing an emotional throughline, but not in a bad way?

I don't think it's plagiarizing to steal a storyline. You have to steal the actual words.


Scrappy - Dec 06, 2005 3:00:38 pm PST #8974 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

If stealing a storyline is plagiarism, then Shakespeare is in BIG trouble.


DavidS - Dec 06, 2005 6:30:17 pm PST #8975 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

If stealing a storyline is plagiarism, then Shakespeare is in BIG trouble.

That's what I'm talking about.


DavidS - Dec 06, 2005 8:56:34 pm PST #8976 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Just caught the making-of special for Brokeback Mountain on the Logo Channel. Oof. It's cowboy slash come alive and bringing all the pain. I didn't realize Linda Cardellini was in it.

Just one thing...Did nobody ever see My Beautiful Launderette?


Mikey - Dec 07, 2005 12:21:43 am PST #8977 of 10002
All this time, I thought Hunter was a bitch. Turns out she was just hungry.

I saw City Hunter over the weekend. It's a Jackie Chan movie from 1992 and is a completely over-the-top action/comedy thing. Like over-the-top for even Jackie. It also has a bizzare musical number in the middle that at one point involves guys in biker leathers spinning around on their backs with sparklers strapped to their feet. Incredibly bizarre.

Kalshane - did you notice who played Chun Li? Yup, Jackie himself. That scene by itself could've made that drinking game interesting.


Fred Pete - Dec 07, 2005 3:47:43 am PST #8978 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

OK, a little controversy for the first thing in the morning:

AFI's 100 Greatest Movie Quotes.


§ ita § - Dec 07, 2005 3:52:21 am PST #8979 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Did nobody ever see My Beautiful Launderette?

Where are you going with that?