The baseball games are kind of a dead giveaway.
As opposed to the tricksily disguised soccer games in Bend It Like Beckham, you mean?
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§ ita § - Mar 15, 2005 11:58:54 am PST #87 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
sumi - Mar 15, 2005 12:01:29 pm PST #88 of 10002
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Doesn't it start off with a bat hitting a ball? (The Natural, I mean.)
Hayden - Mar 15, 2005 12:02:54 pm PST #89 of 10002
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It was The Cup I was remembering, though.
Gotcha. Y'know, I've managed to avoid seeing The Natural all the way through somehow.
DXMachina - Mar 15, 2005 12:03:19 pm PST #90 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
I think The Natural is more about the myth behind baseball. The best movies *about* baseball are probably Eight Men Out and Bull Durham.
Dana - Mar 15, 2005 12:03:49 pm PST #91 of 10002
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As opposed to the tricksily disguised soccer games in Bend It Like Beckham, you mean?
I'm not the one arguing that sports movies aren't about sports.
Edit: Although I was awfully distracted by JRM's cheekbones.
Nutty - Mar 15, 2005 12:04:27 pm PST #92 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
IIRC, it starts with a tree gettign hit by lightning, and a kid lathing his own bat out of the lightning-struck wood. Then later, there is Robert Redford in a waistcoat striking out a major leaguer in a sun-kissed, J. Crew late-afternoon shot. Somewhere in there, Glenn Close looks on limpidly.
§ ita § - Mar 15, 2005 12:05:30 pm PST #93 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm not the one arguing that sports movies aren't about sports.
You misled me by answering my question posed in response to the contention that BiLB wasn't about soccer in the same way. Not that I was thinking Nutty was saying it wasn't about soccer. Just that The Natural handled its sport differently.
DXMachina - Mar 15, 2005 12:06:02 pm PST #94 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
See, I didn't think Bend It Like Beckham was much of a sports movie, either. It was a coming of age movie with some badly played soccer in it.
§ ita § - Mar 15, 2005 12:07:52 pm PST #95 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
BiLB didn't have to be about soccer. It didn't even have to be about sports. Whatever was chosen was integral to the plot, because it was the device for dissension and cultures clashing, but there were other ways.
Jars - Mar 15, 2005 12:14:45 pm PST #96 of 10002
Speaking of soccer, I'm looking forward to Hooligans, with Charlie Hunnam and Elijah Wood. Mmm, pretty violence.