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Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video  

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Kalshane - Nov 18, 2005 5:57:27 pm PST #8686 of 10002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I know we've got a handful of gamers about, so I figured I'd share this.

I just watched the new D&D movie that was on Sci-Fi last month. ("Wrath of the Dragon God" or "The Elemental Might." I've seen both titles used.) While you can tell it had zero budget (the special effects are decent for the spells, but creatures, whether CGI or make-up, are really bad) and the writing, acting and directing are shaky in parts, it's still a decent cheesy fantasy movie, especially if you're actually familiar with D&D and can catch all the little references peppered throughout. It actually stays fairly true to the game and there weren't any moments where my inner rules lawyer went "Wait, that shouldn't happen!"

There is some annoying exposition, but mostly they just expect the audience to either have played D&D or be smart enough to figure out what’s going on. There’s also a subtle side effect of a detect magic spell that made me go "Hey! Cool!"

It's also surprisingly grim for being a cheesy fantasy movie based on a game. The heroes get their butts kicked and have bad things happen to them with surprising frequency.

That said, there are plenty of parts that deserve to MST3Ked. One that stood out is the heroes find a village of goblins who’ve been slaughtered. One of them looks around and says “Who could have done this?” and my first thought was “Quick, look for a group of 1st level adventurers !”

So, overall, I wouldn’t bother paying $18 or whatever for the DVD, but it’s definitely worth watching for D&D geeks if you can get ahold of it in some other fashion. The usual places had it when I got it earlier this week.


Kathy A - Nov 18, 2005 7:14:14 pm PST #8687 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Just got back from Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. As a fan of the books, but one who enjoyed the book Prisoner of Azkaban more than the book GoF, I'd have to rate the films the same way. Radcliffe is definitely improving as an actor, but he still needs some substantial training to bring it up to the level he's going to need by the seventh outing. His crying/portrayal of grief has gotten better than the last film (his reaction to the events after the third task were very well done indeed) . Grint and Watson have more screen time than in PoA, and Grint has finally moved past the mugging-for-the-camera stage (thank you, Mr. Director!). Watson was wonderful in the Yule Ball scene, especially in her confrontation with Ron at the end.

As for the secondary characters, Gambon and Gleason were both just terrific. I've posted before my disappointment that Patrick Stewart wasn't casted for Mad-Eye, but now that I've seen Gleason, I like the fact that they didn't use such a recognizable face as Stewart would have given to Moody. Too bad that Rickman and Dame Maggie didn't have more screen time, but the fact that Hagrid had less was fine with me. The other students had some nice moments, especially Fred and George (they've really picked it up in the last two films, and I'm so looking forward to their grand exit from Hogwarts in OotP), the Patil sisters (loved Ron's date at the ball!), and especially Neville. Giving him the heart of an Astaire was a wonderful touch!

Overall, definitely worth another viewing--3 1/2 stars, easy. (PoA got 4 stars.)


Mr. Broom - Nov 18, 2005 7:28:15 pm PST #8688 of 10002
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

Loved the show myself as well, for the same reasons. Wished Rickman had gotten more lines; he was at the top of my list of people I felt got short-changed. I was expecting such a thing--you simply can't do everyone justice in this framework and have the whole be any good--but still.

Did everyone else get to see the trailer for "Happy Feet" on this one? Was anyone else entirely baffled by it? If the film lives up to the tone of the trailer, I'm calling Unintentional Stoner Movie of the Decade.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 19, 2005 4:23:41 am PST #8689 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Wished Rickman had gotten more lines;

Question: was Gary Oldman in the movie at all and was Snape's role as a former death eater / ally of Dumbledore discussed at all ?


SuziQ - Nov 19, 2005 4:47:16 am PST #8690 of 10002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Frank... 1) Oldman was only in one scene and that was really all CGI, so he was never REALLY there. Quite a disappointment.

2) Harry does see, in Dumbledore's pensive, that Snape was a Death Eater, but he also sees the younger Dumbledore defend him and explain his role as a spy. If I remember correctly, that was the only reference. Snape was definitely not as menacing in this one. The scene where the boys are talking about getting dates for the Yule Ball is priceless.


victor infante - Nov 19, 2005 4:51:02 am PST #8691 of 10002
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

There was also the scene where Harry stumbles upon Snape and the Durmunstrang headmaster are showing off their tattoos. So yeah, they establish Snape's past a bit.


DavidS - Nov 19, 2005 6:22:40 am PST #8692 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Grint has finally moved past the mugging-for-the-camera stage

I thought that had been severely curtailed in PoA already. I feel kind of bad for Mr. Grint since I feel like that was Chris Columbus' doing.

"You with the rubbery face! Can you play this scene a bit more like a Burlesque comedian from the 30s?! Exactly! Perfect."


Mr. Broom - Nov 19, 2005 7:26:42 am PST #8693 of 10002
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

I think that's what made my mother fall in mom-love with him. She cannot get enough of Rupert. She likes constantly bewildered boys. It's why she dotes on her son so.


Narrator - Nov 19, 2005 9:14:15 am PST #8694 of 10002
The evil is this way?

Saw "Harry Potter." Good. Great in parts, but too rushed overall. It needed a few more minutes to let some of the story breathe a bit. I saw it with one of my sisters who has never read the books. She didn't make the connection between Neville being upset in class over the curse with the later scene in which it was disclosed that his parents were tortured with that curse by the Death Eaters. If I hadn't read the book I would have missed that connection too. I think there needed to be a short mention between Harry and Dumbledore in which Harry realizes that he never asked Neville about his parents. The failure to make that point clear to the non-book-reading audience confuses them as to what is going on. Also, the schecule and scoring for the Tri-Wizard Tournament should have been more clearly explained.

Those may be minor quibbles. I want to see the movie again (preferably in a theater where the management understands that a packed house raises the temperature and it needs to adjust to that). Loved the humor. And the Yule Ball was nicely done. The Ron-Hemione argument was well done too. The scene in the graveyard was suitably scary. Not a show for small kids, although there were quite a few at the showing I attended.


Volans - Nov 19, 2005 10:31:38 am PST #8695 of 10002
move out and draw fire

Interrupting the Harry Potter talk to just -- *hork!* *gag!* *spit!* -- ugh...sorry...say I just watched Kingdom of Heaven.

You know how Ridley Scott used CGI to map Oliver Reed's face onto someone else when Reed died during the filming of Gladiator? I think the same thing's been done with Scott himself. The man who directed Blade Runner and Alien died, and his agent got a doppelganger to continue to make movies. He figured as long as he had a lot of crap flying around in the air everyone would believe it was really Ridley.

What a freaking train wreck. A pretty train wreck, but man. I feel ill.