Wash: Mal, your dead army buddy's on the bridge! Zoe: He ain't dead. Wash: Oh.

'The Message'


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§ ita § - Oct 13, 2005 6:54:19 pm PDT #7971 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'd found it interesting that the production comments I'd heard were this is not Domino Harvey's real life.


Sean K - Oct 13, 2005 7:00:50 pm PDT #7972 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I very much doubt Tony Scott has it in him to do a straight bio. Tony Scott makes Tony Scott movies.


Polter-Cow - Oct 13, 2005 7:02:17 pm PDT #7973 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, the movie begins with:

THIS IS BASED ON A TRUE STORY

SORT OF

Regardless, I thought we'd get more insight into her character than I ended up getting.


juliana - Oct 13, 2005 7:08:23 pm PDT #7974 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I saw North Country tonight

That's one of those I have to see just to see who I know.

Signed, the woman who owns Untamed Heart.


IAmNotReallyASpring - Oct 13, 2005 7:45:18 pm PDT #7975 of 10002
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

Is it just because I'm an unrepentant atheist?

I'd think that maybe playing a part; I can't imagine a religious person being rubbed the wrong way by a statement like "we need science and religion". Well, maybe the science part but not the religion part.

I've never seen Contact but as someone who thinks that in a sense faith in science is equitable to faith in God and that in a sense we need science and religion, I'm curious to hear exactly what it has to say. Nothing too insightful if I know my Jodie Foster blockbusters.

Looks at Panic Room

(Forgive the cheap shots taken at Panic Room, which I enjoyed thoroughly, and Contact, which, for all I know, may be a dramatic interpretation of a theology dissertation.)


Gris - Oct 13, 2005 7:48:32 pm PDT #7976 of 10002
Hey. New board.

They say he literally disappears into this role.

They're right. The movie is pretty great, and Hoffman and Keener are both fabulous.

What's gonna be disappointing is if "Have you Heard?" (the OTHER Capote biopic coming out next year) has a better screenplay (Capote's was adequate, and I mostly didn't pay attention to it because acting. so. good. but it could have used work) and worse acting. Because then I'll just be sad that they cast the wrong Capote in the wrong movie.

ETA: Oh, and Contact mostly annoys me because the whole religion thing is really poorly executed. I'm not an atheist - I'm an agnostic who leans towards monotheism, doing serious research on conversion to Judaism at the moment - and it still sucks. And this is from the perspective of somebody who happens to think that faith in science IS a religion - I could write a whole essay on it (it's the second religion I've lost faith in in my time), but I'm not gonna cuz thread is about movies.

Basically, my point is, even as somebody who thinks the movie's intended points are not too shabby, the writing stinks to high heaven. I also hated the book a lot, though it was rather different, thematically.


Sean K - Oct 13, 2005 8:02:12 pm PDT #7977 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I also hated the book a lot, though it was rather different, thematically.

Yeah, I'd be really surprised if the book had the same message. That's not exactly Carl "The Demon Haunted World" Sagan's style.


§ ita § - Oct 13, 2005 8:02:52 pm PDT #7978 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I loved the book. I could groove on the idea of a message in pi for hours. And I think I did.


Sean K - Oct 13, 2005 8:03:51 pm PDT #7979 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I could groove on the idea of a message in pi for hours. And I think I did.

That was my favorite idea in the movie. It's nice and mind blowing. Even better than a Bible code, if you ask me.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 13, 2005 8:30:29 pm PDT #7980 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I loved the book. I could groove on the idea of a message in pi for hours. And I think I did.

Unsurprisingly, I'm right there with you. I wish the movie had ended like the book, with Foster's character getting a printout of some iteration of pi where the numbers defined a circular signature on the Work.