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Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Sean K - Oct 12, 2005 10:36:37 am PDT #7879 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

In BoB I could have sworn there was narration during the winter seige thing. I'm not sure what to call it, but I could have sworn there was narration there and another place where it was Walberg doing the narration.

There was. I don't remember if there was narration by Walberg anywhere else, but he definitely narrated the siege at Foy.

I hated everything about that Dracula movie, so I don't particularly remember Keanu's accent.

That movie caused a schism between me and a couple of my friends for a little while after it came out because they were all "OMG, IT'S SO SWEEPING AND ROMANTIC AND VAMPIRES AND TAKE ME AWAY FROM ALL OF THIS DEATH!!!!1!!1!," and I was all "You know it's one huge steaming pile of poo, right?"


tommyrot - Oct 12, 2005 10:38:19 am PDT #7880 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Tom Waits made an excellent Renfield.


Calli - Oct 12, 2005 10:39:11 am PDT #7881 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I was all "You know it's one huge steaming pile of poo, right?"

Very stylish poo, though. If I turned off my brain I could enjoy a fair bit of the pretty. Kind of like Mary Shelly's Frankenstein.

That reminds me, at the scene where the suitors and Van Helsing are riding to save whatsherface in Dracula, the guy I was watching the movie with leaned over to me and said, "Good God. It's Van Helsing and the Three Stooges vs. Dracula."


Volans - Oct 12, 2005 10:45:06 am PDT #7882 of 10002
move out and draw fire

Tom Waits made an excellent Renfield.

By the time Renfield showed up, I was gnawing off my own leg to get out of the theater.

The Klimt-style stuff was pretty, if completely inappropriate (and I'm not a huge Klimt fan anyway).

Oh! But on topic, Gary Oldman's Romanian, and the accent, were atrocious. Romanian accents are hard to do, though.


Gandalfe - Oct 12, 2005 10:45:51 am PDT #7883 of 10002
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Thesis: There have been no good vampire movies made in Hollywood since Lost Boys, with the exception of the original BTVS movie. Discuss.


Mr. Broom - Oct 12, 2005 10:50:10 am PDT #7884 of 10002
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

Even "Lost Boys" requires some rosetinting, which is allowable because so many of us were young'uns when it came out. I'm thinking particularly of the very end, which was only missing an over-the-top, hands-on-hips, "Oh, Grampa!" followed by the entire cast laughing and then a freeze as the credits roll.


§ ita § - Oct 12, 2005 10:52:34 am PDT #7885 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think the original BTVS movie was good either.

There have been vampire movies I've enjoyed, but damned few I'd say were good.


DavidS - Oct 12, 2005 10:52:45 am PDT #7886 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Gary Oldman's Romanian, and the accent, were atrocious.

Yeah, but he does a good American accent. As does Emma Thompson.

Tom Waits is a better Renfield than Dwight Frye. He's the new standard.

Gwyneth and RZ are the two American actors I know who seem to do well with a British accent. AD doesn't count since he cheated and grew up over there. Of course, Meryl is probably the accent champ. Though I think it's possibly a crutch and her choice to go Italian in Bridges of Madison County seemed dubious.


Vonnie K - Oct 12, 2005 10:56:46 am PDT #7887 of 10002
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

There have been no good vampire movies made in Hollywood since Lost Boys, with the exception of the original BTVS movie. Discuss.

I thought Shadow of the Vampire was rather good. Willen Dafoe hamming it up as Max Shreck was a tremendous fun to watch.

Not a feature film, but one of my favorite modern take on the vampire myth is the short-lived British series, Ultraviolet, in which vampirism is approached as a contagious disease and the protagonists work on possible scientific cure. Sharp writing, moody camera-work, and some terrific villains and moral ambiguity galore.


Sean K - Oct 12, 2005 10:58:08 am PDT #7888 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

If I turned off my brain I could enjoy a fair bit of the pretty. Kind of like Mary Shelly's Frankenstein.

Visually quite impressive, yes. Especially considering that the vast majority of the special effects were done "in camera" meaning that they happened live on set, with or without using some camera trickery, rather than CGI-ed or other "post production" effects.

All of the creepy shadow effects were done live on set with lighting tricks, for example.