The trailers make it look unwatchably bad.
Yes, they utterly creep me out, just like its predecessor did. God did I dislike Willy Wonka.
Zoe: Planet's coming up a mite fast. Wash: That's just cause, I'm going down too quick. Likely crash and kill us all. Mal: Well, that happens, let me know.
'Shindig'
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bon bon - Jul 15, 2005 11:02:50 am PDT #5694 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Jessica - Jul 15, 2005 11:02:57 am PDT #5695 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
DH saw it last week, and he didn't think I'd like it. And then he said that the Oompa Loompa songs sounded like early Oingo Boingo, which was just mean because if it's true, I desperately want to see that. But I may be better off just rewatching my Forbidden Zone DVD.
Calli - Jul 15, 2005 11:04:20 am PDT #5696 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
Eternal Sunshine made me respect Jim Carrey as an actor. Since I would have bet folding money on that being impossible before seing ESotSM, I was very impressed.
§ ita § - Jul 15, 2005 11:04:58 am PDT #5697 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The trailers make it look not unwatchably bad to me, but disturbingly creepy. I will probably see it, but not in IMAX like my friend was trying to persuade me to.
It'd be really hard for it to creep me out more than Willy Wonka, though. And yet ... for a Dahl story, the book didn't really bother me.
Atropa - Jul 15, 2005 11:05:06 am PDT #5698 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
But I may be better off just rewatching my Forbidden Zone DVD.
I keep forgetting to buy that ...
-t - Jul 15, 2005 11:06:26 am PDT #5699 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I just saw Eternal SUnshine last weekend, and Carrey was very understated.
I was loving it and then it ended and the end was kind of, I don't know. Disappointing, except I wasn't exactly expecting anything of the ending. It was just not the ending that the rest of the movie had prepared me for, somehow. And I don't know how.
It did make me think that there aren't any portrayals of tinkering with memory in fiction that I can think of in which it's a good idea.
Hayden - Jul 15, 2005 11:09:28 am PDT #5700 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
Trust me. My hatred for Jim Carrey knows only one bound: he was flat-out incredible in Eternal Sunshine, mostly by playing neutral-damaged.
OMG, Corwood, Pike is almost like Frank Sobotka...clinging to his dream and his past on the docks way past its day...trying to do the wrong things for the right reasons... Ok, that's enough boring Wirehead epiphany.
I don't know. I think Sobotka is ten times the man that Pike was. For instance, Sobotka was rarely selfish in his choices (sure, he was a thief, but only for the good of the union), whereas Pike mostly used his "when you side with a man, you stay with a man" speech to deflect criticism for his cold-blooded murder of several of the Bunch in his rush to save his own hide. He's more of an analog of Stringer Bell, I think, unable to bring all that intelligence to bear on escaping from the trap he's set for himself.
Hayden - Jul 15, 2005 11:14:10 am PDT #5701 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
I was loving it and then it ended and the end was kind of, I don't know. Disappointing, except I wasn't exactly expecting anything of the ending. It was just not the ending that the rest of the movie had prepared me for, somehow. And I don't know how.
I was a bit disappointed the first time I saw it, too. The second time, though, left me in tears. I mean, they're stupid and petty and mean to each other, and they'll probably fight and break up all over again, but, y'know, they love each other, too, and that little possibility of redemption is really enough reason to go through it all. Man. That's more romantic than anything with Meg Ryan would ever dare.
It did make me think that there aren't any portrayals of tinkering with memory in fiction that I can think of in which it's a good idea.
Jonathan Lethem edited a lovely anthology of amnesia fiction called, uh (looking up on Amazon), the Vintage Book of Amnesia Fiction. Check it out. I especially love Dennis Potter's contribution.
Jessica - Jul 15, 2005 11:17:56 am PDT #5702 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
It did make me think that there aren't any portrayals of tinkering with memory in fiction that I can think of in which it's a good idea.
There's a fair amount of sci-fi where having some kind of memory chip implant is on par with having a credit card -- everyone does it, and the technology works fine most of the time. (Of course, the main character usually has his memory hacked and spends the rest of the book trying to get his life back, but it's not presented as generally a bad idea so much as technology that will help you until someone figures out how to use it to fuck you over.)
§ ita § - Jul 15, 2005 11:20:03 am PDT #5703 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
There's a fair amount of sci-fi where having some kind of memory chip implant is on par with having a credit card
Is there much where it's neutral (ie, not the conflict) or where removing memory isn't bad? It makes me wonder if there's some sort of conspiracy to keep us afeared of the prospect. By a group of people we no longer remember.