Gabriel: Are you trying to destroy this family? Simon: I didn't realize it would be so easy.

'Safe'


Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video  

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Hayden - Jul 15, 2005 10:05:20 am PDT #5669 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

ETA: Corwood gets to blurb my book if it ever comes out, being as pulp with miles of brains is my artistic heart's desire.

(Bogey) Anytime, sweetheart. (/Bogey)

It got into some things that really scare me, as it turns out, but they weren't thinking of folks like me when they made it, obviously.

I think that horror was pretty much front-and-center in the movie. It's interesting how both Eternal Sunshine and Gondry's prior movie Human Nature have horrific mad science front and central to the plot, but neither really dwells on this.


Steph L. - Jul 15, 2005 10:06:19 am PDT #5670 of 10002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

What did you think of Before Sunset, Tep? Because I thought it was one of the most perfect movies I'd ever seen -- it was just so pure, nothing but two people walking and talking for 80 minutes in real time.

I actually haven't seen it (or Before Sunrise, either, actually).

LiT is a movie that hit me so hard I can hardly bear to hear people say anything bad about it.

Heh. Me, too.


Gris - Jul 15, 2005 10:11:59 am PDT #5671 of 10002
Hey. New board.

Although I think LiT has a serious strong vie for my Top Movie Ever position, I actually don't mind at all when people don't like it. I completely see where they are coming from. I think because the reasons I love it are so personal (which is why they're so strong), I can easily see somebody who isn't me not having anywhere close to the same experience with it. Which is okay.


DavidS - Jul 15, 2005 10:12:14 am PDT #5672 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I mean, even Shakespeare's fairly pulpy in the context of his time.

Absolutely. One of the many things I love about Shakespeare. Or the equally pulpy and melodramatic Dickens. It is no impediment to great art! We like it juicy.


Hayden - Jul 15, 2005 10:13:43 am PDT #5673 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I actually haven't seen it (or Before Sunrise, either, actually).

Watch 'em in order. I loved the hell out of Before Sunrise when it came out (I was their age then, too), but found them sort of annoying on rewatch. And Before Sunset was so incredible in that context, as if we all grew up and things are messier now, but the little beautiful moments are that much more precious. Yowza.


erikaj - Jul 15, 2005 10:14:08 am PDT #5674 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

You oughta be careful promising stuff to blondes, Corwood. If Uncle Raymond taught us anything, that mostly doesn't end well. But, by that logic, I should hate myself all the...never mind. "You're very cute, you know."


Hayden - Jul 15, 2005 10:22:46 am PDT #5675 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Sometimes all we can do is follow things through until we end up gutshot, y'know.


Strega - Jul 15, 2005 10:30:59 am PDT #5676 of 10002

Calli -- I saw the second half of Tape a while back while channel-surfing, and that's about when it starts getting fucked-up. It's just about impossible to talk about without giving things away, though. Stuff does happen.

Just to confuse P-C further...

Corwood--

the final massacre at Agua Verde, where Pike finally does the right thing for the right reason and dies for his convictions.
See, this I totally disagree with. It does seem to be a popular interpretation, but I don't get it. I mean, ra-ra loyalty and all that, but they don't decide to slaughter the entire town out of loyalty to Angel. It's just what they do, because they're a bunch of bastards. I don't see it so much as Pike being noble and doing The Right Thing. It is important for him, personally, because he's always abandoning people, but it's just as much ennui. They've got nowhere to go and nothing to do. Time's up. If they hadn't killed Angel, I don't think it would have changed a thing.

(Oh, and P-C, I haven't seen any of the Godfather movies, either. I have some affection for Coppola, and I believe they're good, but I think I'd be bored by them. Not my kind of story. It happens.)


erikaj - Jul 15, 2005 10:31:58 am PDT #5677 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

True enough...my aim's terrible, I think you're safe, Corwood. (Cancels Strega's Wire-conversion pitch.) Because if the Godfather looks boring, the Wire would be like paint drying for you.


Sean K - Jul 15, 2005 10:32:23 am PDT #5678 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

LiT is a movie that hit me so hard I can hardly bear to hear people say anything bad about it.

This is me. My stepmom hates LiT with the burning fiery passion of a thousand white-hot suns, but every time she starts to say bad stuff about it, it feels like she's saying how much she virulently loathes me as a person.