Buffy: A Guide, but no water or food. So it leads me to the sacred place and then a week later it leads you to my bleached bones? Giles: Buffy, really. It takes more than a week to bleach bones.

'Dirty Girls'


Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Melpomene - Jul 05, 2005 9:34:28 am PDT #5226 of 10002
Ever fired your gun in the air and yelled, 'Aaaaaaah?'

I've never read a Batman comic and I knew his parents have been killed. I don't know where I picked that up, though.


erikaj - Jul 05, 2005 9:38:46 am PDT #5227 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I used to read the FF comic a lot, when I read comics.


askye - Jul 05, 2005 9:40:55 am PDT #5228 of 10002
Thrive to spite them

I'm pretty sure in the first Batman movie they showed his parents dying.


Jessica - Jul 05, 2005 9:42:29 am PDT #5229 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I figured that everyone knew Batman's parents had been killed, for instance.

Is it really possible to have heard of Batman and not know this?


Fay - Jul 05, 2005 9:45:05 am PDT #5230 of 10002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

From my medium-interest-in-comics viewpoint, that seems really unlikely. The Fantastic 4 were a group that got their powers at the same time in the same accident. Sue, her husband, her brother, and their friend. They may work with other people, but the four? Just them.

But Spidey did knock about with them quite a lot, whether formally or informally. Took on Doctor Doom together, that kind of thing. Also, they play poker with him. And Angel from X Men, and a couple of other guys. I think I know about The Fantastic Four from a mixture of cartoons on the telly and, quite possibly, because they were in one of the Spidey comics that I used to read when I was wee. I remember a really really depressing plotline in which Mr Fantastic and the Invisible Girl lost their child - can't remember if it died, or what, and it all happened on some other planet/some other dimension. But it was serious marriage breakdown worthy stuff. And I was only wee, and thought at the time "blimey, comics are a lot less cheerful than grown ups would have us believe. Huh."

Spider man and his Amazing Friends (Iceman and Firestar)

Ooh! I remember them!


Kathy A - Jul 05, 2005 9:45:08 am PDT #5231 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

If they didn't mention it in the Adam West cheesefest on TV, I didn't know about it until the first film.


DavidS - Jul 05, 2005 9:46:10 am PDT #5232 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But Spidey did knock about with them quite a lot, whether formally or informally.

That is absolutely true. Johnny Storm was one of his earliest friends in the superhero world too.


Fay - Jul 05, 2005 9:47:09 am PDT #5233 of 10002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Is it really possible to have heard of Batman and not know this?

Pretty sure a lot of Joe Q Public (as, for example, Ma and Pa Jay, Chez Fay) only associate the Bat Man with the cheesy TV show from back in the day. Primary colours, wrinkly tights, Bam, Kapow, Zoink etc etc.


§ ita § - Jul 05, 2005 9:49:18 am PDT #5234 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But Spidey did knock about with them quite a lot, whether formally or informally.

Sure. Everyone knocked about with them. I'm surprised to learn he had been a member, even for a hot second, or that that many other people had too. Were they still the Fantastic Four when there were five of them, or did they swap people out?


Gandalfe - Jul 05, 2005 9:52:30 am PDT #5235 of 10002
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

I'm surprised to learn he had been a member, even for a hot second, or that that many other people had too. Were they still the Fantastic Four when there were five of them, or did they swap people out?

She-Hulk was a member, too, during a time when the Thing went walkies. Wasn't Power-Man a member briefly? And, yes, they were always 4, as they others were only replacements.