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Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video  

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§ ita § - Jun 27, 2005 10:30:15 am PDT #4732 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not talking about the movie when I say you think you should like Batman, Nutty. I'm talking about the character, as depicted in the comics in the past ten years. If you don't like him, why should you like the movie?

It's not the movie's fault you don't like him. It's a pre-existing condition.

The movie hasn't failed the character so much as the character (even before the movie) failed you.

Not that I'm saying the movie's perfect, but a discussion of how the movie failed the character would talk about different things from your objections.


P.M. Marc - Jun 27, 2005 10:34:49 am PDT #4733 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Which Batman title should I read?

From way back: Ali, right now the only title I'm loving is Batman and I'll let you know if the others stop sucking.

I think my copy of Kingdom Come has the Elseworlds branding.

Of all the comic book heroes, I expect to care about Batman the most. He's got no magic powers, and he has a tailor-made woobie-worthy backstory.

Sure, he's only human, but in my experience, Bruce/Batman is the comic book hero least likely to strike an emotional chord, because he's as emotionally closed-off as late-seasons Buffy. Of course, on account of baby and schedule issues, I have yet to see for myself how they translated him to film.


Jesse - Jun 27, 2005 10:35:32 am PDT #4734 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm now reminded of seeing the Baz Luhrman Romeo + Juliet with a friend. As we left, I asked if she liked it, and she said no, she's always hated the story.


§ ita § - Jun 27, 2005 10:36:07 am PDT #4735 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Bruce/Batman is the comic book hero least likely to strike an emotional chord, because he's as emotionally closed-off as late-seasons Buffy

And as such, not much of a woobie.

Cass? She's a woobie, and then some. Batman doesn't have the same footholds.


Polter-Cow - Jun 27, 2005 10:36:34 am PDT #4736 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

As we left, I asked if she liked it, and she said no, she's always hated the story.

Did she expect to like it, though?


Jesse - Jun 27, 2005 10:37:59 am PDT #4737 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Did she expect to like it, though?

I think she went in willing to like it, except for the fact that it actually was Romeo and Juliet, and the story pissed her off too much to focus on the cool trappings.


askye - Jun 27, 2005 10:39:45 am PDT #4738 of 10002
Thrive to spite them

Thanks Ple. I should have moved that over to comic thread.

Wednesday I'm definitly going to the comic book store. Hopefully I can figure out the minimum number of titles I'll be happy reading and stick with that.


P.M. Marc - Jun 27, 2005 10:40:03 am PDT #4739 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Cass? She's a woobie, and then some. Batman doesn't have the same footholds.

Exactly. Batman's not a woobie, he just trains them.


askye - Jun 27, 2005 10:42:34 am PDT #4740 of 10002
Thrive to spite them

I'm still not clear on what a woobie is.


Polter-Cow - Jun 27, 2005 10:44:47 am PDT #4741 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

A woobie is someone you want to hug and squeeze and call him George.