There are no absolutes. No right and wrong. Haven't you learned anything working for the Powers? There are only choices.

Jasmine ,'Power Play'


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Steph L. - Jun 27, 2005 8:54:11 am PDT #4669 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

but then again, the DC universe is the one where you have to qualify time periods as "pre-Crisis" or "post-Crisis."

And aren't they about to have another Crisis, too? So in another year, it'll be "pre-Crises," "in-between Crises," and "post-Crises"

I know -- "Well, but that's pre-Crisis Batman....no, no -- I mean pre-FIRST Crisis Batman; pre-RECENT Crisis Batman is just a spooky freak."


Jessica - Jun 27, 2005 8:54:58 am PDT #4670 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Crisis crisis crisis. The word has no meaning anymore.


Jessica - Jun 27, 2005 8:55:28 am PDT #4671 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

(Also, I keep misreading Batman as Bateman. I blame Christian Bale.)


Steph L. - Jun 27, 2005 8:56:06 am PDT #4672 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Crisis crisis crisis. The word has no meaning anymore.

Coming in November 2005 -- DC presents: Infinite Tartlet!!!!

Appetizers will never be the same in the DC universe again.


Jessica - Jun 27, 2005 8:57:27 am PDT #4673 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Infinite Tartlet!!!!

Please (a) let this be true and (b) let it lead to Batman telling someone to stop calling him pastries.


§ ita § - Jun 27, 2005 8:58:15 am PDT #4674 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Batman telling someone to stop calling him pastries

Oh, delicious circularity!


Calli - Jun 27, 2005 8:59:11 am PDT #4675 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

DC presents: Infinite Tartlet!!!!

So it all comes back to pie. I suspected as much.


Steph L. - Jun 27, 2005 9:01:57 am PDT #4676 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

(b) let it lead to Batman telling someone to stop calling him pastries.

"Why so late, donut?"

"Clark, stop calling me pastries!"

"Awwww, did my gooey apple turnover have a bad night fighting crime?"


Nutty - Jun 27, 2005 9:02:30 am PDT #4677 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Well, I started this discussion with the avowal that I don't know a thing about current canon, so it's possible that my view is just antiquated. I don't think it's fair to say it's wrong, however; I'm not exactly middle-aged, and I'm recalling character points from within my lifetime.

the mere fact that I'd wish that upon myself, ever, highlights why he gets to do it and I don't

That's why it's a fantasy. You get to indulge your propensity for violence without ever breaking the law.

I'll admit that the meta approach can be a little alarming, since it comes from outside the text, and can sometimes outright contradict what is stated on the page. The idea is to delve past stated authorial intent and dig up all the available interpretations. That I skew heavily toward the "that too is ego-massage" interpretations is possibly a sign of how distrustful I am of the formal definitions of heroism.


askye - Jun 27, 2005 9:07:01 am PDT #4678 of 10002
Thrive to spite them

I've got to start reading comics again.

Which Batman title should I read?