Crisis crisis crisis. The word has no meaning anymore.
Fred: It's the pictures in my mind that are getting me. It's like being stuck in a really bad movie with those Clockwork Orange clampy things on my eyeballs. Wesley: Why imagine? Reality's disturbing enough.
'Shells'
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Jessica - Jun 27, 2005 8:54:58 am PDT #4670 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Jessica - Jun 27, 2005 8:55:28 am PDT #4671 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
(Also, I keep misreading Batman as Bateman. I blame Christian Bale.)
Steph L. - Jun 27, 2005 8:56:06 am PDT #4672 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Crisis crisis crisis. The word has no meaning anymore.
Coming in November 2005 -- DC presents: Infinite Tartlet!!!!
Appetizers will never be the same in the DC universe again.
Jessica - Jun 27, 2005 8:57:27 am PDT #4673 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Infinite Tartlet!!!!
Please (a) let this be true and (b) let it lead to Batman telling someone to stop calling him pastries.
§ ita § - Jun 27, 2005 8:58:15 am PDT #4674 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Batman telling someone to stop calling him pastries
Oh, delicious circularity!
Calli - Jun 27, 2005 8:59:11 am PDT #4675 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
DC presents: Infinite Tartlet!!!!
So it all comes back to pie. I suspected as much.
Steph L. - Jun 27, 2005 9:01:57 am PDT #4676 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism
(b) let it lead to Batman telling someone to stop calling him pastries.
"Why so late, donut?"
"Clark, stop calling me pastries!"
"Awwww, did my gooey apple turnover have a bad night fighting crime?"
Nutty - Jun 27, 2005 9:02:30 am PDT #4677 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Well, I started this discussion with the avowal that I don't know a thing about current canon, so it's possible that my view is just antiquated. I don't think it's fair to say it's wrong, however; I'm not exactly middle-aged, and I'm recalling character points from within my lifetime.
the mere fact that I'd wish that upon myself, ever, highlights why he gets to do it and I don't
That's why it's a fantasy. You get to indulge your propensity for violence without ever breaking the law.
I'll admit that the meta approach can be a little alarming, since it comes from outside the text, and can sometimes outright contradict what is stated on the page. The idea is to delve past stated authorial intent and dig up all the available interpretations. That I skew heavily toward the "that too is ego-massage" interpretations is possibly a sign of how distrustful I am of the formal definitions of heroism.
askye - Jun 27, 2005 9:07:01 am PDT #4678 of 10002
Thrive to spite them
I've got to start reading comics again.
Which Batman title should I read?
§ ita § - Jun 27, 2005 9:07:34 am PDT #4679 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think I'm not explaining myself well, Nutty. "My" Batman would distrust anyone who wanted to do his job too much, since he doesn't regard it as a joy. It's a grieving process for him, and atonement for a crime he didn't commit, and a way of putting forth a legacy.
That's why the fact that I think it's cool has no bearing on whether or not he does.
I'm not alarmed by the approach to this particular text. I just don't think it has a point here, since I'm making flawed assumptions to make it work.
All the possible interpretations aren't that interesting to me.