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DavidS - Jun 15, 2005 8:07:13 am PDT #4101 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

from kind of weird, but generally OK, Hollywood guy to Our Weirdest Fucking Celebrity, completely vaulting over both Madonna AND Courtney Love.

Michael Jackson & Mel Gibson are still 1-2 right?


§ ita § - Jun 15, 2005 8:07:45 am PDT #4102 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think that Tom may have gone further than Mel.


DavidS - Jun 15, 2005 8:08:31 am PDT #4103 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think that Tom may have gone further than Mel.

Tom just joined a cult. Mel is running one.


Beverly - Jun 15, 2005 8:28:58 am PDT #4104 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I'm with Hec. Though actually, I think Mike and Mel are pretty much neck and neck...

...ew. Squicky.

Tom's a distant third compared to those two.


Mr. Broom - Jun 15, 2005 8:30:48 am PDT #4105 of 10002
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

Yeah, but besides the cult thing, what's Mel got going for him in this competition? It's Tom's multiplicity of issues that makes him wackier than Mel, who's just got that one burning fixation.


Nutty - Jun 15, 2005 8:33:43 am PDT #4106 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I would say that Mel is a weirdo, who is like, "I am a weirdo. See me construct a whole reality around my weirdness." He totally cops to the weirdo aspects, which in some ways defuses their power to wig us out.

Whereas, Tom Cruise, people are still playing along, trying to pretend he isn't totally weird, because he has not (and probably will not) copped to the weirdness. So at least with Mel, you know what you have, and you know how to react to it. With Tom, who knows, he might start humping your furniture.


Mr. Broom - Jun 15, 2005 8:37:28 am PDT #4107 of 10002
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

"I'm not gonna do what everyone thinks I'm gonna do and just... hump furniture!"


Sean K - Jun 15, 2005 8:45:42 am PDT #4108 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Tom is way weirder than Mel. Mel's cult isn't that far removed from the main Western paradigm.

Tom is part of the "We Used To Be Clams" cult. And he's one of their most vocal spokespeople.


§ ita § - Jun 15, 2005 8:47:58 am PDT #4109 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Body Thetans, y'all.


Sean K - Jun 15, 2005 8:50:27 am PDT #4110 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

The Evil Alien Overlord Xenu is weirder than Jesus. For sure.