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§ ita § - Jun 07, 2005 12:23:21 pm PDT #3848 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If I'm directing, say, The Day After Tomorrow, I hardly have the time and money to check everything with the chairs of the physics, geology and climatology departments.

I think if your story hinges on it, put it into your budget.

However, movies are lies. Movies are constrained by politics, money, personalities, and many other things. Who knows who'd be more accurate with infinite power & budget, and who really doesn't give a rat's ass?


Tom Scola - Jun 07, 2005 12:24:20 pm PDT #3849 of 10002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I clearly need to establish a department of suckology somewhere, so that filmmakers can consult with me, and I could prevent another Day After Tomorrow.


Jessica - Jun 07, 2005 12:26:59 pm PDT #3850 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm surprised you think they were able to suck that much without the assistance of a Suckology expert on set.


tommyrot - Jun 07, 2005 12:27:24 pm PDT #3851 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I clearly need to establish a department of suckology somewhere, so that filmmakers can consult with me, and I could prevent another Day After Tomorrow.

Fine, be that way. Next time you get trapped in the NYC library by killler frost, see if I walk all the way from DC to rescue you.


bon bon - Jun 07, 2005 12:29:36 pm PDT #3852 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I think if your story hinges on it, put it into your budget.

Well, see...in Double Jeopardy, the whole plot hinges on the fact that Ashley Judd can't be prosecuted for her husband's murder after she was unjustly convicted of it, right? (I haven't seen it.) The problem with the film, as I understand it, is that the first murder and the second are in different states...and there is no double jeopardy protection against being prosecuted for the same crime in different states.

Now, if you learned about this fairly late, it would be a huge pain to change the locales just because of some technicality like that that about 1000 people can appreciate. (I didn't learn this in law school; it was in a footnote of an article I edited.)


Jesse - Jun 07, 2005 12:33:51 pm PDT #3853 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

But the number of people who know what various metropolitan areas look like is much bigger than the number of people who know the details of actual law.

Oh, and the Rent trailer is up for real now: [link]


bon bon - Jun 07, 2005 12:37:41 pm PDT #3854 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Well, we'll just have to concede that movies take place in Magic Yorkago under the Fictionstution.


Nutty - Jun 07, 2005 12:38:38 pm PDT #3855 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I'm guessing that Rumble In The Bronx doesn't slip by on any technicalities, huh?

Ha ha ha! That was so cute! What with mountains right near the Bronx, which has its own ocean bay.

There is faking it, location-wise, and then there is faking it. Like, I can understand having no budget and having to pretend with $7, a flugelhorn, five paperclips, and a yard of fabric; but taking one of the most visually salient features of Chicago, putting it in New York, and acting like you haven't, is ridiculous. Like, if they'd filmed the elevated trains of St. Louis, or someplace less, you know, hugely famous for its elevated trains, I would have cut a scintilla more slack.

Just as I forgave the X-Files for not knowing a lot of subtleties of the geography and culture of Washington, DC. But, there is "I was not aware Crystal City is a neighborhood nickname rather than a formally-defined city" and then there is "What do you mean it's physically impossible to traverse 500 miles in two hours by car?"


Jesse - Jun 07, 2005 12:39:13 pm PDT #3856 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I vote for more fake-named places! When I write my movie, it will take place in Isola New Morton.


Nutty - Jun 07, 2005 12:43:59 pm PDT #3857 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Cereal:

The problem with the film, as I understand it, is that the first murder and the second are in different states...and there is no double jeopardy protection against being prosecuted for the same crime in different states.

I think the problem is that you may not be prosecuted for the same crime twice, but if the husband isn't really dead, then she didn't kill him and has committed no crime. (In fact, she was framed, because her husband is a prick.) So if she goes ahead and kills him later, then she can be prosecuted for that crime. It's not that the crimes are in different states; it's that wrongful conviction for the first one does not give carte blanche for the second one.

So no, it still makes no sense, and anybody who sat down and thought about it would be able to puzzle out that premeditated murder is never legally-consequence-free, no matter how much you've been screwed over.